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J’arrive juste de chez Google. Ouf.

J’ai beaucoup “collaboré” dans Google Maps et au décidé cet été de me degoogliser au maximum. En effet, Google a bloqué mon compte agence ads évoquant des raisons floues.

Ils ont perdu ma confiance déjà bien égratignee. En tant que mini agence web, j’évite gafam et consorts pour accompagner mes clients et amis vers des endroits plus sûrs et plus sains.

Goog. M’a fait envoyer deux mois de relevés bancaires pour qu’ils lèvent enfin l’interdiction. Ce qu’ils ont faut après deux mois, sans même envoyer un mail.

Je sais que la privacy et la protection des individus en général est ma raison de vivre (carrément).

Il en découle ce qui permet aux gens de vivre : les réseaux de distribution : data, trains, et énergie particulièrement. Surtout si c’est vert. C’est agréable de trouver des gens ouverts qui pensent un peu comme moi. Cette communauté fait beaucoup de bien à tous.

Vive le libre, vive le web, vive la vie !

Salto

Posted by Lejun on 1 September 2021 in English. Last updated on 2 September 2021.

Tag’s use

While the amenity=parking tag is used “de facto”, the amenity=parking_space micromapping oriented tag has been introduced and approved by vote on 2011-05-01. The main reason for it’s introduction is to help people, disabled or not, easily find parking spots inside parking lots without any important downside to it.

Other voted proposals introduced the parking:lane=* and parking=street_side tags and while those are quite useful (I’m still reserved concerning the first), I’d rather map parking spaces directly as those kind of parking’s capacity is generally quite low. The parking:lane proposal even adds:

Consider using parking:lane=* as a simple alternative if the streetside parking spaces are stretched over a longer section of the road and no micromapping of these areas is desired.

Ha! Which fool wouldn’t want some micromapping in its life? Micromapping is love, micromapping is but the purpose of life.

The tag is especially useful in combination with the footway=acces_aisle tag (not to be confounded with service=parking_aisle which is oriented towards vehicular routing) which is used for pedestrian routing in parking lots.

Tools

This tutorial makes use of the JOSM editor along with the BuildingsTools and Gridify plugins and the high resolution of aerial imagery in France. Some similar functions may be found on other editors that I don’t know of, feel free to try and find your own workflow in the journey for the slickest parking lot micromapping.

“Parking:orientation”

The main difficulty about mapping parking spaces comes from its typology. Up to now I have found four different kinds of geometry and I’ll go through them from the simplest to the hardest to map in my opinion. The overall pattern of those is implicit and it’s recommended to use the parking:orientation key to specify if necessary.

Straight (Parallel or perpendicular)

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Location: ZAC de Châteaufarine, Chateaufarine, Besançon, Doubs, Bourgogne – Franche-Comté, Metropolitan France, 25000, France
Posted by AngocA on 1 September 2021 in Spanish (Español). Last updated on 28 March 2022.

Este artículo hace parte de una serie de artículos que he escrito acerca de las notas. En el primero escribí sobre el contexto de las notas frente a la comunidad de OpenStreetMap, y en el segundo sobre cómo crear, ver, y cerrar las notas desde diferentes aplicaciones. Aquí están los artículos:

En este artículo explico cómo analizar las notas y si hay muchas activas en la zona de interés, poder diseñar una estrategia para cerrarlas.

Notas creadas y solucionadas por país

Comencemos con un servicio que ha creado Pascal Neis específicamente para notas. Antes de continuar es importante mencionar que Pascal ha creado una gran cantidad de herramientas para análisis de datos de OSM, lo cual facilita el trabajo o análisis de OSM desde diferentes aristas.

Con respecto a las notas, él nos ha puesto a disposición una página que permite ver las notas de cada país, discriminadas por las abiertas, las cerradas y las totales, donde además hace un cálculo de la tasa de resolución: https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-notes

Esta página permite inducir cómo la comunidad de cada país está involucrada en el mapa, en la parte de resolución de notas. Además, puede dar una idea de cómo, de manera general, está la comunidad involucrada activamente en contribuir en el mapa. Se puede ver que los países con mayor cantidad de notas resueltas, y los de mejor tasa de abiertas/cerradas, son los países que tienen comunidades de colaboradores más involucradas y activas.

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Location: UPZs Localidad Teusaquillo, Localidad Teusaquillo, Bogotá, Bogotá, Distrito Capital, RAP (Especial) Central, Colombia
Posted by cquest on 31 August 2021 in French (Français). Last updated on 1 September 2021.

J’ai profité de l’été pour me (re)-lancer dans le chantier “serveurs de tuiles”.

Petits rappels

OpenStreetMap France héberge génère plusieurs fonds de carte à l’aide de ses “serveurs de tuiles”:

  • rendu “FR”, une adaptation commencé en 2012 du style OSM de l’époque, destinée à un public francophones (noms en français en priorité, icône plus parlantes en France, etc) avec des ajouts originaux (terrains de sport, etc)

  • le rendu “humanitaire” largement utilisé par HOT et disponible aussi sur openstreetmap.org

  • le rendu “CyclOSM” , le petit dernier, lui aussi disponible sur openstreetmap.fr

À cela s’ajoute aussi OpenRiverBoat, un rendu adapté à la navigation fluviale, des rendus en langues régionales, des rendus techniques.

Les trois premiers sont assez fortement utilisés et complexes. Le rendu “FR” contient par exemple 82 couches différentes parfois multiples ce qui donne au total plus de 170 couches de dessin pour arriver au rendu final avec plus de 10000 règles qui servent à décider comment représenter graphiquement tel ou tel objet.

Les outils utilisés

Le cœur est une base postgresql/postgis, qui contient les données OSM utiles à la fabrication du fond de carte et à sa mise propre mise à jour.

Les données OpenStreetMap brutes sont importées dans postgresql puis mises à jour régulièrement à l’aide d’osm2pgsql. Typiquement la base résultat occupe environ 1To.

La génération du fond de carte est faite par renderd qui utilise la librairie mapnik pour transformer les données vectorielles issues de postgresql en images en appliquant une feuille de style.

Cette feuille de style au format XML utilisée par mapnik, est générée à l’aide de kosmtik à partir un code source écrit en cartocss, une sorte de CSS adaptée à la cartographie.

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This diary explores the problems with the OSM Wiki entry for service=driveway, and why is there a need for service=driveway2. In the process, it also describes the headaches encountered while trying find a optimal solution. However, deeply entrenched opinions makes this process untenable.

Need for clear indication of classified service way type

The topic of discussion will need to begin on how OSM tags are designed in an hierarchy, which begins with initial key-value pair of highway=service, followed by classifier tags service=driveway or service=parking_aisle. Note that highway=service without any service=* does not tell the data consumer if this is simply a minor way that is un-classified (not yet assigned a classification type such as parking_aisle or alley or driveway), or if this minor way is an implicit driveway. In general, a data consumer will assume that the way is un-classified, instead of assuming that it is an implicit driveway.

The classifier issue is the first issue present in the service=driveway Wiki entry - that suggests that minor ways linking from major roads to parking_aisles should be tagged as an implicit driveway with no classifier tags.

  • This means that data consumers are unable to determine if the way segment is un-classified, or if it is indeed an implicit driveway when such minor service way connected to parking_aisles are encountered..
  • Similarly, a user whom just want to quickly add minor service roads but does not perform classification will mean that data consumers cannot identify if such ways are classified or un-classified, and therefore prevents accurate assessment if further classification is required.

Definition of driveway

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We seek your community input - please help us by sharing the Etiquette guidelines and giving input on the OSM wiki by September 8, 2021. We also have some upcoming consultation meetings to hear your views. ## Announcement

The LCCWG moderation subcommittee is holding two online public meetings about the revisions to the current Etiquette Guidelines, which are now open for public comment.

The draft guidelines are found here, with comments open to Sept 8:

Both public online meetings will be held via Big Blue Button in this room:

Two timeslots to accommodate a global audience.

Meeting #1: Thursday September 2; 1400 UTC (your time zone)

7 AM Pacific Time (US) 10 AM Eastern Time (US) 2 PM UTC 4 PM Central European Time

Meeting #2: Saturday, September 4; 06:00 UTC (your time zone)

11:00 PM Pacific Time (US; evening of Sept 3) 02:00 AM Eastern Time (US) 06:00 AM UTC 08:00 AM Central European Time 09:00 Nairobi 11:45 Kathmandu 1300 Jakarta 1400 Manila 1600 Sydney

Give input on the OSM wiki by September 8, 2021

See full details for the Etiquette and moderation process on the wiki -. The draft guidelines are found here, with comments open to Sept 8th, 2021

With thanks on behalf of the subcommittee

Location: Plainpalais, Geneva, 1205, Switzerland
Posted by messpert on 29 August 2021 in English.

I have mapped areas of Bodmin Moor especially around Minions which was originally a mining settlement. Large parts have been mined until around 1900, but it is likely that there has been mining since prehistory.

Early mining, as least medieval, was largely based on streamwork. This is described here (https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1020051). That describes a particularly large example near Minions. This website (https://www.aditnow.co.uk/Photo/Gonamena-Tin-Streamwork_50013/) includes some photographs.

As seen in those pictures, the ground is heavily disturbed. That case is fairly extreme. Often the area is smaller, but usually following a stream, and only a few metres deep. Frequently the ground is sandy with fine gravel, presumably from the extracted waste. Actually that is true in places at Gonamena, and it is also true of other smaller workings around Minions.

We don’t (yet) have any good tagging for these places, but I had used landuse=surface_mining which I think captures these distinctive areas quite well. Together with disused=yes. Unfortunately another mapper decide to change that tagging to landuse=quarry which is just plain wrong.

I have now changed to historic=mine (I am not keen on that) and landuse=disturbed (also not really a landuse) until someone comes up with better ways of capturing these special places. Perhaps I might change historic from mine to surface_mining.

There is a thread on talk-gb@openstreetmap.org about this.

Versão em Português link

Disclaimer: All the text you read below is based on an online research aimed at the Brazilian market. survey link

It isn’t news - or shouldn’t be - that OpenStreetMap has a great value in sharing local information. It is a social impact tool for minorities and humanitarian aid policies. Despite the big efforts thousands of mappers who dedicate themselves every day to improve the maps, added to the diligent efforts by the BigTechs to promote their own services, the OSM is far from being the most ppopular map in the world. Or, at least a reference as big as its sister, Wikipedia.

A Hidden Gold Mine

Out of a group of geotech enthusiasts, the OSM is totally unknown to the general public. As we could see in the survey, about 68% of the participants had never heard about OpenStreetMap. Although most likely having had previous experiences with one of the various contact points (Tesla, SnapMap, BigMaps, Apple Maps, Facebook, Strava, Mapbox), most people still didn’t know about OpenStreetMap.

If you’re concerned about whether people see or not your work on OpenStreetMap, the answer is simple as that: Of course they do. They just don’t know where it comes from!

The main reason for this omission is that companies often try to hide our contributions in the smallest and most obscure lines of terms of service while building their own proprietary database, giving grumbs to the community. No need to name names, right?

But this isn’t an exclusive practice of large corporations. How often do apps like Maps.me, OSMAnd, OrganicMaps stop to remind their users that the data they’re using came from OpenStreetMap?

Truth is, no one wants to tell you about their Goose that laid the Golden Eggs!

Not everyone wants to map

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Location: Centro, Timon, Maranhão, Northeast Region, Brazil

English Version link

Disclaimer: Todo o texto que você lerá abaixo é baseado em uma pesquisa feita online voltada ao mercado Brasileiro. link para um resumo da pesquisa feita

Não é novidade - ou não deveria ser - que o OpenStreetMap tem uma grande importância no compartilhamento de informação de um local. É uma ferramenta de impacto social para minorias e políticas de ajuda humanitária. Apesar dos grandes esforços dedicados por milhares de mapeadores que se dedicam a cada dia melhorar os mapas, somado ao esforço diligente das grandes BigTechs para promover seus próprios serviços, o OSM está longe de ser o mapa mais popular do mundo. Ou, pelo menos, uma referência tão grande quanto sua irmã Wikipédia.

Uma mina de ouro escondida

Fora um grupo de afissurados em geotecnologia, o OSM é totalmente desconhecido para o publico geral. Como pudemos observar na pesquisa feita, cerca de 68% dos participantes nunca tinha ouvido falar do OpenStreetMap. Apesar de muito provavelmente já terem tido experiências prévias com um dos vários pontos de contato (Tesla, SnapMap, BigMaps, Apple Maps, Facebook, Strava, Mapbox), mesmo assim a maioria das pessoas não conheciam o OpenStreetMap.

Se você se você se preocupa se as pessoas veem seu trabalho no OpenStreetMap, a resposta é simples assim: claro que sim! Elas só não sabe de onde vem!

O principal motivo para essa omissão é que empresas frequentemente tentam esconder nossas contribuições nas linhas mais pequenas e obscuras de termos de serviço enquanto constroem sua própria base dados proprietária dando migalhas para a comunidade. Não preciso citar nomes né?

Mas isso não é uma prática exclusiva das grandes corporações, quantas vezes aplicativos como Maps.me, OSMAnd, OrganicMaps param para lembrar seus usuários que os dados que estão usando veio do OpenStreetMap?

A verdade é que ninguém quer contar sobre sua galinha dos ovos de ouro!

Nem todo mundo quer mapear

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Location: -5.098, -42.825

Завершил корректировки и дополнения в части западнее реки Славянки. Теперь карта вполне точно отражает текущее состояние парка на настоящий момент. Пройдусь по восточной части долины реки Славянки и вплотную приступлю к Дворцовому району. В целом там размечено все правильно, но надо навести красоту и аккуратность и кое-что исправить и дополнить.

Posted by Lübeck on 28 August 2021 in German (Deutsch).

In einem Posting unter https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=73680 ging es mir darum, wie taggt man durch die Flut zerstörte Flächen um diese entsprechend zu kennzeichnen.

Damit das Ergebnis etwas bekannter ist verweise ich deshalb darauf.

Zusätzlich sollten folgende Attribute dann gesetzt werden:

damage:date=2021-07-14

damage:event=#flood0721

damage:type=flood

Jan

Kan je je vakantie beter plannen met Openstreetmap?

Een week op vakantie geweest in Zeeland en wel in Breskens. Met de auto er naar toe en daar een huis gehuurd. Een gewoon huis in het dorp. De uitdaging hoe vind je interessante dingen om in je vakantie te doen. Zoek eens op VVV Breskens, er is geen echte VVV website voor een kleine plaats als Breskens. Er zijn wel wat boekjes met tips maar dan moet je die eerst helemaal pagina voor pagina doorspitten. Apps en websites die vakantie bestemmingen tonen zijn ingericht voor promotie van de meest betalende deelnemer en niet op jouw persoonlijke voorkeur en wensen.

Gezocht een handig systeem waar je je vakantie mee kan plannen die rekening houd met jouw wensen

Ik ben recentelijk gestart met het bekijken van Openstreetmap een wereldwijd open kaart systeem dat door vrijwilligers word onderhouden. Zo kwam het idee op “Kan een open source kaart systeem onderhouden door vrijwilligers informatie bieden voor de tourist”

Een analyse

Als voorbeeld case neem ik even mijn eigen vakantie in Zeeland

Ik zoek dingen die mijn gezin leuk vinden op de vakantie:

  • Strand (zoeken van schelpdieren, krabben, spelen in het zand)
  • Kinderactiviteiten (zwemmen, leuke speeltuin, spannende attracties, geen saaie draaimolens, klein museum niet te langdurig)
  • Eten (Italiaans pizza, Thais, Grill, Vis, Mosselen, Krab, Patat, Tomaten ketchup)

Mogelijkheden en Beperkingen:

  • Ik heb een auto maar een dagje met een boot of de bus is wellicht ook leuk
  • We zijn samen met vrienden, soms zijn we samen dan weer individueel
  • We hebben een (kleine) hond en we houden niet van roken
  • Als het regent wil ik ook wat doen maar dan droog

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Posted by DeBigC on 28 August 2021 in English.

The helpful webstats that are provided by Pascal Neis measure map contributions per sovereign territory. In Ireland we still have a relatively small community, and would seldom have over 400 mappers appearing in his ‘kinda random’ 60 day view of the mapping contributions. It would also be rare to have over 100 map changes recorded by more than 100 of those who make it on to the chart. The pascal records these excludes Northern Ireland, who are part of our community, and where our active mappers also map a good deal.

Anyway, a few weeks ago myself and my fellow Traveller, AK challenged each other to get to the 200K mark. AK has been to that summit before, and me never, though it wouldn’t be uncommon for me to have 100K map changes. I am so thankful to have her comradeship and support. It became less of a race, and more of us egging one another on to map every day for the 60 days, which we duely did, and here is the proof. 200K

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Posted by b-unicycling on 27 August 2021 in English.

On my Facebook page OSMForHistoryBuffs, I’m following a group about holy wells in Ireland, because that is one of my peripheral interests when mapping. People post there about holy wells they have visited, often with a number of photographs. Sometimes people ask for an exact location and are given a googlemaps pin (ugh). When I feel like it, I try to find out where these holy wells are and add them to OSM, obviously I try to avoid the GoogleMaps pin. Often enough, the wells are on the British War Office layer and can be made out on Esri imagery anyway. Sometimes I do then post a link to OSM in that group saying “I’ve added it, look here”.

I’m not sure it is gonna make anyone start mapping, but at least OSM will be better than GoogleMaps as regards to holy wells.

Location: Lisloose, Shanakill, Tralee Rural ED, Tralee Municipal District, County Kerry, Munster, Ireland