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I love mapping botanical gardens. So when State of the Map US wrapped up last weekend, I was excited to make a return trip to Tucson Botanical Gardens for some serious micromapping. I had already spent hours adding buildings, garden spaces, and trails. Now I could work on benches, fountains, artwork, etc. Here’s how it looks after a few more hours of micromapping:

Tucson Botanical Gardens on OSM.

The garden currently has an augmented reality exhibition called Seeing the Invisible. Users download an app, and it overlays 3D images of artwork over the plants you view through your phone. Any time I use an app like this, my first question is “What map are they using for navigation?” In this case it was very unclear because there was no attribution on the map or on the Credits page. You can view the map here.

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Location: Palo Verde, Tucson, Pima County, Arizona, 85716, United States
Posted by DeBigC on 4 April 2022 in English.

I have put the following item on the Irish mailing list. I will put it here to widen out the inputs. If you have some time, and some experience of adding this landuse. Rather than repeat all my concerns I will simply post visual some examples of the issues I am talking about here.

Example of an urban landuse=residential which is gigantic.

Example of a landuse=residential interpreted at running along a roadway to incorporate ribbon(roadside) developments. This landuse connects a huge number of disconnected places.

Example of a landuse=residential residential where the landuse is trimmed back from the public highway and walkway, and doesn’t extend beyond the collective block of properties.

Posted by dcapillae on 4 April 2022 in Spanish (Español). Last updated on 26 June 2022.

Mapa de Málaga con la distribución de tareas por nivel de dificultad Mapa de Málaga con la distribución de tareas por nivel de dificultad. Fuente: colaboradores de OpenStreetMap; trabajo propio (CC BY-SA 4.0).

He creado un proyecto en el gestor de tareas (solo usuarios autorizados) para la importación de contenedores de basura a partir de datos abiertos del Ayuntamiento de Málaga. Para participar en la importación es necesario disponer de una cuenta de usuario dedicada conforme a las directrices de importación.

Para facilitar la labor, he dividido el trabajo en zonas de extensión variable y clasificado cada tarea por su nivel de dificultad conforme al número de contenedores a importar en cada caso. Las tareas de dificultad fácil tienen menos de 40 contenedores; las de dificultad media, entre 40 y 79 contenedores; y las de dificultad difícil, entre 80 y 109 contenedores. El número de contenedores a importar se indica en cada tarea, así como el enlace al archivo de datos correspondiente.

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Location: 36.721, -4.422
Posted by JamJar II on 4 April 2022 in English.

Over the last few weeks I have been looking at 3D rendering of OpenStreetMap data. Much of the focus has been on the old town of Dunkeld in Perthshire, Scotland.

I learn iteratively combining trial and error with reading documentation. Different rendering options like demo-f4map.com and Kendriz3D plugin in JOSM provide my informational feedback loop. The former is easier to use but the Kendriz3D plugin is quicker to see the updates I make.

I went house number surveying with StreetComplete yesterday in Callan, Co. Kilkenny. They have some very strange house numbering there, I can tell you.

One case, where whoever screwed the numbers on the door got them mixed up, so the sequence goes 34, 35, 63, 37 etc. But that’s what’s on the door, so that’s how I mapped it.

Another case, where the sequence is out of order, but presumably, because the houses got their number in the order they were built in.

Then I continued along Mill Street into what would eventually become Collins Park with a sign of the name in English and Irish in a wall (mapillary), so at least, I had some idea of the street name. However, the numbering continued from Mill Street (with ridiculously high numbers for Ireland, if I may add). I decided to ask the resident of no. 462 what street he lived on, and his answer was “The sat nav says Collins Park.” Very likely (everybody I know who isn’t a mapper uses it), that means GoogleMaps. So, what street do I put under addr:street? Do I follow the logic of the sequencing and give his house addr:street=Mill Street, yet adding “Collins Park” as the name to highway=street or do I follow the local’s information which in this case is very, very likely taken from Google? And which could easily lead to duplicate numbers for the same street?

I’ve done it the other way around for now, but I’m not happy with it.

A similar problem occurred elsewhere, where the name of the street “Green Lane” presumably continues from where I saw the only sign (sorry, no photograph, but it’s the street that led/ leads to the Fair Green), but the sequence on one side of the road continues from Mill Street, but across the road, one of the houses had “2 Kingscourt” (mark the different spelling from the actual street name - Kings Court - , FFS, isn’t anything easy in Callan?!). After my tagging, the houses on either side belong to different streets which they are not physically on.

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Location: Bolton, Callan Rural, The Municipal District of Callan — Thomastown, County Kilkenny, Leinster, Ireland

Hallo zusammen.

Beim Vervollständigen anderer Daten in JOSM fiel mir zufällig auf, dass von der an meinem Heimatdorf Fischbeck (Weser) vorbeiführenden, bis Anfang der 80er zweigleisigen Bahnstrecke nur das noch in Betrieb befindliche Gleis gemappt worden war. Ich hatte zuvor im Wiki nach einem passenden Key für ein Streckenhäuschen gesucht und hatte dabei herausgefunden, dass es auch für stillgelegte und sogar für abgebaute Gleisanlagen Keys zur Kartierung gibt. Auch wenn die Existenz eines Keys natürlich nicht gleich bedeutet, dass Objekte dieses Typs auch einzutragen sind, überlegte ich, diese Datenlücke in der nächsten Zeit zu schließen. Um jedoch nicht viel Zeit in die Ermittlung womöglich unnützer Daten zu stecken, schrieb ich eine Nachricht in die Matrix/IRC Gruppe osm-de, die auf den deutschen Sprachraum fokussiert ist. Nach Klärung einiger Eckpunkte und etwas Verwunderung darüber, dass der stillgelegte Teil der Strecke bisher noch nicht eingetragen wurde, stimmte man mir zu, dass die Eintragung sinnvoll wäre. Daher begann ich mit den Vorbereitungen auf die Eintragung.

Vorliegende Situation

Ich wohne mit meinen Eltern im eher mittelgroßen Dorf Fischbeck bei Hameln in Niedersachsen. Neben dem Dorf führt außer der Bundesstraße 83 auch eine Bahnstrecke vorbei, genauer die Bahnstrecke Elze–Löhne (auch Weserbahn genannt). Sie hatte als Teil der Hauptstrecke von Berlin nach Amsterdam auch für den Güterverkehr eine große Bedeutung, wurde jedoch Anfang der 1980er Jahre auf ein Gleis zurückgebaut. Bis auf die Neben- / Rangiergleise an den Bahnhöfen bzw. Haltepunkten verläuft diese Strecke also eingleisig.

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Location: Fischbeck, Hessisch Oldendorf, Landkreis Hameln-Pyrmont, Niedersachsen, 31840, Deutschland
Posted by iriman on 3 April 2022 in Persian (فارسی). Last updated on 13 April 2022.
  1. تقریباً همهٔ سازندگان نرم‌افزار برای ترجمه و بومی‌سازی آن دستورالعملی می‌نویسند. اول از همه آن را پیدا کنید و با دقت بخوانیدش و به جزئیاتش توجه کنید. (بی‌توجهی به این مورد = افزایش احتمال اضافه‌کاری و حتی خراب‌کاری)
  2. ماشین‌های ترجمه کمک خوبی هستند اما از عهدهٔ تمام کار بر نمی‌آیند. اگر از آن‌ها کمک گرفتید، مطابق با «دستورالعمل» سازندهٔ نرم‌افزار و «دانش زبانی» خود و توجه به «اصطلاحات» مخصوص به هر نرم‌افزار، ترجمهٔ ماشینی را بررسی و تصحیح کنید.
  3. یکدستی در کاربرد واژه‌ها را رعایت کنید:
    • مثلاً اگر دکمه‌ای را «دال» ترجمه کردید، در قسمت‌های دیگری که به این دکمه اشاره می‌شود آن را «د» ترجمه نکنید. چون کاربر به دنبال دکمهٔ «د» می‌گردد اما شما آن را «دال» ترجمه کرده‌اید…
    • اگر ترجمه‌ای را از صفر شروع نکرده‌اید، دقت نمایید که با تغییر دادن فقط برخی ترجمه‌ها، یکدستی را از بین نبرید.
    • اگر نرم‌افزار راهنما دارد و راهنمای آن ترجمه شده، گسترهٔ این یکدستی به راهنمای نرم‌افزار هم می‌رسد و لازم است هنگام ترجمه/تغییردادن ترجمه به این موضوع توجه کنیم.
    • بنابراین جا دارد پیش از دست بردن در کار ترجمه‌شده یا نیمه‌کاره، آن را بررسی کنید و خلاصه‌وار از شیوهٔ ترجمه‌اش نکته‌برداری کنید (مثبت/منفی).
  4. اگر با نرم‌افزاری کار نمی‌کنید ترجمه‌اش نکنید. اگر با بخشی از آن کار می‌کنید، همان بخش را ترجمه کنید.
  5. اگر عبارتی تا به حال به چشمتان نخورده، بهتر است کمی در نرم‌افزار بچرخید و آن را پیدا کنید تا هرچه‌بهتر ترجمه‌اش کنید. از سازنده هم می‌توانید بپرسید.
    • ارتباط ترجمه‌ها با نرم‌افزار معمولاً از طریق کلیدهای منحصربه‌فرد صورت می‌گیرد که این کلیدها به‌جای عبارت‌های اصلی، در کدهای برنامه‌نویسی‌شدهٔ نرم‌افزار ذکر می‌شوند. اگر دربارهٔ یک عبارت شک داشتید می‌توانید کلیدش را در کدهای نرم‌افزار جست‌وجو کنید. با یافتن کد مربوط به هر عبارت معمولاً سرنخ‌هایی از مفهوم آن به دست می‌آورید.
Posted by ExpresswayDave on 3 April 2022 in English.

I know it’s been about two years since I’ve written an entry in here. Truth is that I haven’t been mapping as much as I used to and inclined to write about it even less.

That said I haven’t been completely idle:

  • Added more details to Vermillion Regional Airport in Danville, Illinois. Having been a member of the Illini Glider Club allowed me to do that since I was going there pretty much every weekend. Unfortuntely I had to give it up when I became unemployed in November of 2020, but I’ve been at my new job for almost 6 months now and I plan on rejoining sometime between mid-July and early August.
  • I added the bike lanes and sharrows along Main Street in Urbana from downtown to the Kickapoo Rail Trail. I did this over a year ago and was surprised no one else had done it since it’s the main connector between the rail trail and the rest of the bike routes in the Champaign-Urbana area.
  • Cleaned up/added the bike lanes and sharrows in downtown Champaign. I added the bike lane along Walnut Street (which unfortunately doesn’t have one going in the opposite direction on one of the adjacent streets, unless you count State Street, which I don’t), added the bike lane along Clark St/Logan St, removed the bike trail marking along Clark St west of Randolph since it’s not marked with signs or pavement markings (it’s marked as one in the Champaign County Bikes map only)
  • Added more maxspeed and minspeed tags in Iowa and Illinois. Besides the motorways I’ve been paying attention to US 30 in and east of Cedar Rapids, IA 38, and IA 130. A hint for other mappers who want to add maxspeed tags for highways that go through small towns: like Pennsylvania the speed limits in Iowa tend to change in or near the city limits of these towns, though Iowa’s a bit more flexible than Pennsylvania is. Also, adding minspeed tags to the Interstates in Iowa and Illinois is easy since you can just download and select all the members of the route relations for them and add them that way.

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Posted by Dino Michelini on 2 April 2022 in Italian (Italiano). Last updated on 2 August 2026.

Aggiornamenti pubblicati su www.incass.it.

Lo studio completo è disponibile su www.academia.edu.

Introduzione

In questi ultimi anni e in concomitanza dell’anno degli Etruschi si è riscoperta questa strada etrusco-romana: lungo il suo ipotetico percorso da Ponte Milvio (Roma) a Roselle (Grosseto) si è assistito al fiorire di numerose iniziative, ad es. sono nati gruppi e associazioni (molti presenti sul www) e proposti progetti per la sua valorizzazione storico-turistico-ambientale; nonostante ciò di fatto ancora manca sul terreno un tracciato escursionistico che colleghi i siti archeologici certi della Via Clodia.

Molte iniziative hanno indicato percorsi che dal punto di vista storico ed archeologico non hanno alcuna attendibilità: spesso si è confuso uno o più diverticoli romani con la Clodia, oppure, è bastata la presenza di resti etrusco-romani per affermare che “qui passava la Clodia”; tra i casi più manifesti vi è quello del percorso 105 segnato dal CAI Viterbo “Via Clodia”1.

Il tracciato da me proposto su OSM, Relazione Antica Via Clodia (7990604)2, è un iniziale e fattivo contributo frutto di conoscenze personali, per il tratto Roma-Tuscania, e dello studio di numerose fonti quali le relazioni e gli studi archeologici.

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Location: Manziana, Roma, Lazio, Italia
Posted by Minh Nguyen on 1 April 2022 in English. Last updated on 3 April 2022.

Recently there have been well-reasoned calls to give users blunt feedback when they have strayed. It came to my attention that the wiki has no built-in feature for this social interaction, only the reverse. I have implemented a user script that allows you to chide another user for an edit. For example, I stridently disapprove of this edit from a year ago:

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Location: Darré Peyrahitte, Lies, Bagnères-de-Bigorre, Hautes Pyrenees, Occitania, Metropolitan France, 65200, France
Posted by unen on 1 April 2022 in English. Last updated on 2 April 2022.

The OSM Help Desk of the Open Mapping Hub Asia-Pacific is slowly and steadily continuing while we discuss different matters with different people every week, both online and offline, when scheduling and connectivity doesn’t allow us to meet online. And I am also personally enjoying these discussions since I am too, refreshing or expanding my knowledge on some topics along the way. So please keep the appointments coming via this online form.

Discussion Topics:

  • ”I am part of an organization and we want to be advanced OSM contributors.”

There are lots of entry points to get to know about Openstreetmap: Wiki being the main one and LearnOSM another very good resource for this purpose.

But if you’re also aiming to gain expertise and become trainers in your community, or planning high-impact mapping projects and activities and want to build capacity on those, please let HOTOSM or the Open Mapping Hubs in Asia-Pacific, Eastern and Southern Africa, Northern and Western Africa or Latin America to learn how they could help you achieve these goals.

  • ”I would like to learn how to map properly. Especially on Tasking Manager.”

Again, the Tasking Manager section of LearnOSM is going to provide almost everything you need to know on how to properly contribute to OSM using Tasking Manager.

Additionally, please feel free to use and distribute this little cheat-sheet we’ve recently put together at the Hub. Squeezed in and packed up knowledge for you, bragging rights for us :)

You can access the cheat-sheet here

Location: 40.946, 29.107
  Hello Mappers
                   I caused a few routing errors when I first started mapping because I didn't check that the final node of a path I had mapped was connected to another path, track or road. I didn't know about routing then. Seeing an image of a dotted path at a road looked to be an obvious connection. But when using a routing engine routing would fail.
     Since I started to use routing engines more. I have discovered more faults. They are often caused by tagging omissions.  Unless a way allows the mode of transport that you have selected the routing engines will not use that  way ( path track or road).   Some mappers in England know that a Bridleway is a legal right of way for foot, cycles and horses and  they assume routers will use these ways, But they don't.  For any rights of way we need to add foot=yes for footpaths.  Bridleways  need all three tags,  foot =yes, cycle=yes, and horse=yes, to get routing engines to work as expected.   Potlatch and iD editors have these  tags built-in but you will have to select  each one of them.   When we edit the map the database is changed instantly,  the drawn map will maybe need a refresh to renew the display however. (ctrl  F5  on my Win PC)   We would hope we could quickly test the routing after our mapping or correction, but we cannot. OSRM and GraphHopper only update their copy of the map data every few days.  For this reason we will have to check a few days later.  see this please https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/83945/foot-routing-failing-bridleway-alone-doesnt-let-it-work-it-needs-footyes
                                                                                                                                              Happy Mapping and Routing
                                             Andy                                                                                                                                            
Posted by LySioS on 31 March 2022 in French (Français). Last updated on 1 April 2022.

Introduction

Lorsque l’on arpente le terrain, il n’est pas rare de devoir justifier sa présence un peu trop scrutatrice. C’est l’occasion d’expliquer et de faire connaître le projet.

L’association OpenStreetMap France avait élaboré un dépliant de communication très clair et joliment présenté (voir ici) mais qui a l’inconvénient de prendre beaucoup de place pour que l’on se promène toujours avec.

La carte de visite a un format idéal pour rester dans le portefeuille en attendant qu’elle soit utile. J’en ai trouvé plusieurs versions sur le wiki :

Historique

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Location: Quartier des Champs-Élysées, Paris 8e Arrondissement, Paris, Île-de-France, France métropolitaine, 75008, France

Hello Mappers I do a lot of walking in the English countryside. Sometimes I plan routes and find these two “engines” very useful.  GraphHopper https://www.graphhopper.com/    and OSRM https://openrouteservice.org/  These two routing engines are on the main map page and use openstreetmap data. Try them out, click on the bent arrow and select a couple of points, select mode of travel. for example  osm.org/directions?engine=graphhopper_foot&route=52.3099%2C-0.3175%3B52.2873%2C-0.3173 move the point a little and you have osm.org/directions?engine=graphhopper_foot&route=52.3100%2C-0.3158%3B52.2873%2C-0.3173 You now have a route, a distance and elevation trace of almost the whole circuit  of Grafham Water Reservoir.    Sometimes two points will generate an odd route. My next diary entry will cover some of the problems and how to fix them.                                Happy Mapping and Route Planning Andy

Quand j’ai commencé à cartographier sur Openstreetmap, je me souviens avoir été confronté à pas mal de questions : que ce soit sur la prise en main de l’éditeur en ligne (iD), sur les codes et bonnes pratiques à respecter, sans oublier le cadre légal des sources de données utilisables.

Avant de me lancer, je m’étais assez bien documenté. En fait, je me suis d’abord intéressé au projet : sa philosophie, son fonctionnement et sa communauté, c’est ce qui m’a motivé à participer. Ensuite, afin de respecter au mieux le travail déjà accompli et d’apporter des modifications correctes,  j’ai appris pas mal de choses. Je suis passé par plusieurs sources : le guide du débutant, LearnOsm, des vidéos, le forum etc.

Malgré cette approche, on se rend vite compte que si on veut contribuer du mieux possible, plus on avance, plus on se pose de questions.

En monitorant l’activité de nouveaux venus ou de lycéens de SNT, je me suis rendu compte que, de manière générale, ce sont toujours les mêmes erreurs qui reviennent. À partir de là, l’idée d’établir des règles d’or m’est venue. Pour donner un côté un peu décalé, j’ai imaginé reprendre les 10 commandements à la sauce OSM.

Cependant, si c’est rigolo entre contributeurs avertis, ce n’est pas forcément parlant pour des novices. Il fallait un support plus pédagogique et agréable à découvrir qui puissent servir à la fois à des contributeurs isolés comme à un groupe lors d’une cartopartie par exemple.


Quelques extraits :

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