Hi,

Interesting. So happened to have covered the way from Giulianova to Sangro up and down and noticed that the part going thru Pineto including a new cycleway with top notch paving, lit and 3.5 wide in Scerne has now been dual signed both as BI-6 and Ciclovie di Cerrano so adapted that part.

As I've commented on CS's that touch on the SS16 with 4200 members, the BI-6 with near 1600 and counting is due for a regional split and then combine into a super route. Done the Appenine Bike Tour route of 3100km in 44 parts in an SR and works a treat. Any change and just a BBox for that section at most, not one covering the whole of Italy, plus it loads quick, manageable.
One editor from France started removing vrs tags en mass along the BI-6 without discussion which DWG reverted. Think for now certain tags needs to remain on way parts due the messy and broken up parts a big 'WIP' ambient relating to this route.
Next up, a new section north of Ortona including using the old rail gallerie thru to Lido Riccio... lack of money is making the progress slow like much in poor Abruzzo. The Ortona to Sangro stretch has become beautiful cycleway, if windy sometimes with constant view of the Adriatic, the resorts and the 'trabucchi' of course for sea food eating.

cheers.

Hi,

This is typically a late afternoon chore. I'll schedule it for the next couple of (rainy) days. I've looked a bit, there's really no good way to split but along one winding road and a large complex inner area which will cut out many members already. as then it becomes outer, Still recommending to try out JOSM as it's a rarity such complex MP relations can't be loaded in one go. It will tell you exactly where the shoe needs tweaking. When these issues appear it's always ID, never seen a JOSM mapper being flagged that I can remember.

ciao

Thanks for replying and link (info we cant legally use in OSM) and routers don't care about abiding or not. The pedestrian zone combod with no stopping sign and vehicles is telling. OSM has no solution for ZTL tagging meaning periodic closure but for foot (and bike here in IT at 'veloce moderato'). We call it ATL here but it's exactly the same, it's split in 5 zones for which residents have a zone N permit. Anyway, the square being a parking lot is the escape clause, it has a painted way to get to Spedalieri If it can be made out in the recent OSM aerials or you confirm to have now 'local knowledge' post 'survey', the way can be mapped without OSM rule infraction. motor_vehicle:conditional=yes @ destination may be called for on the ZTL streets.. The digi displays here at zone entrance points with ATL active of not-active' is how outsiders learn when not to drive in. The pedestiran sign effectively telling 5 kmh maxspeed. Many cycle ways here have 10kmh sign when shared with foot or a 'velocità moderata' sub-sign

thanks again.

Hi,

Where do cars go now coming from Via Giuseppe Garibaldi past the church & square as Corso Umberto Primo is one way opposite directions on the part south of your 'foot only'? Something must have change there too to get out e.g. to Pz Spedalieri and Pz Azzia?

cheers

Big Box due add of mast to HV line.

Would propose the SS16 relations is split into regional sections, Marche, Abruzzo, Emilia etc so as not to cause long rendering waits in editing and cause BBox every time some edits a single node on this 4200 member relation. After splitting combine into super route.

Hi Martinummo,

Looks at the chg sets i posted in the area you mapped to see details, parking, ways (bad practise to map ways along edges of areas, inter area gaps. parking access, layering (arcades same as building passage behove no layer is=n. and more.
The place to look is your stats page at HDYC (How did you contribute) at neis. https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?Martinummo
There's links to various lists, most pronounced, you've got > 600 routing issues to your name at OSM Inspector https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/hdyc-osmi-issues?uid=6698832, Also the Osmose links give more problems, often false positives but you have to study them before dismissing, else correct. Level 1 is grave, there's level 2 and level 3 too. Level one/two surely needs attention. Don't tag steps with access=yes or anything (an ID quirk), delete those else you allow horses to climb them too and granny in her wheelchair gets routed there and dangerous goods.
Level 3 mentions a lot of parking issues. Either add a tag parking=streetside or map a way onto it, don't stop at the edge, map to where cars really drive and specify when true aisle or a service way.

Have fun 'fixing'.

Hi,

Thanks for mapping in Italy. You keep 'fixing' landuse and other things and leaving a trail of issues, particularly unconnected nodes.... in Silvi, in Roseto, yesterday Giulianova. Overlying nodes have to be grey (connected) in ID.

happy mapping.

PS, this tag needs fixing anyhow...

aadr:housenumber=1

Hi,

Buildings in Italy have absolutely no housenumber.... they go to the entrance be it a node on the building outline or on the gate to the property, where the number shield tag is. Can all be read in the Italian wiki v.v. addresses.

ciao

Ciao,

Perché un indirizzo di Città Sant'Angelo su un nodo POI di Pescara? Se questo è l'indirizzo di contatto devi usare i tag contact:housenumber, contact:street, contact:city, contact:postcode. Se fisicamente si trova ancora in Piazza Ettore Troilo, è necessario ripristinare l'indirizzo, ovviamente con l'ortografia corretta. In ogni caso, se si cerca Nominatim si viene inviati a Città Sant'Angelo.

Per favore, fatemi sapere

Buona mappatura

Hi,

Need a favor: In rare use of car (it poured) took the new junction exit and remember there was a big white sign with a black printed diagram of the roundabout with destinations/directions for each roundabout exit... cemetery, San Silvestro, Pescara Sud, Franvilla ecc. Cycled over today to the Strada Colle Pineta bridge in hopes of seeing it east bound. No luck. From the roundabout see nothing at all so suspect it is somewhere near/before the emergency parking bay, SW of the Strada Pineta bridge. If you happen to catch it with your dashcam I'd be much obliged if you could PM me a copy or link to some drop box image cloud.

Muchos.

Multiple italian comments on more edit sets doing same, hitting 100K nodes. Time to run the reverter.

FYI, sent a PM to adamos (not Armando) about the routing change here. This mapper does daily updating of Flixbus route found broken. 8 days on and still routing via the 'trombetta'

ciao

Found a simple name ref "Parco del Terzolle, and this seeming offical http://www.lavalle-equitazione.it/area-naturale-protetta-del-torrente-terzolle/ "AREA NATURALE ANPIL DEL TORRENTE TERZOLLE"

OK, duplicate way removed, inner's gone, converted to a simple polygon outline. As bonus mapped a few orchards and track.

BTW, it was not only a duplicate way, it was connected at every of the 1236 nodes to the one which was there before, both with same MP tags. Anyway, the name does/did not render at any zoom level but I've seen that before on protected areas/natural reserves. Wonder how official the very long name is.

Hi,

Why is this natural area in a type=multipolygon relation and not type=boundary? What is the relation of these 25 'inner' to the protected area? These residential and other areas with buildings like Ospidale Fraticini now show a protected area boundary inner, this set up not seen anywhere before. Think they all need to be removed from the protected area relation as the are not 'inner' to anything and in fact are flagged that their roles have to be outer, if at all. In fact now the boundary has been mapped twice, object 1160009968 and 1228938891. One has to go as now it's reported as a duplicated segment of 1236 nodes.

please let us know
ciao

Hi The 'saga'... saw one of the changes applied to sections of the SS16 to secondary following the close of the Trombetta. Me thinketh the roundabout from SS714 to SS16 and part De Lollis have to be Primary now, their practical role now.

have a nice day.

Hi

You 'typo' got flagged. It's Publio, not Publbio. If you change a street name, you need to change all sections including the Vico's too and the addresses referring to the street name. See wiki https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publio_Ovidio_Nasone

ciao

Hi,

Don't want to know why you changed this beach resort building to hotel... some hotels operate a beach spot, but it does not make the location a hotel. Changed it to retail... nobody sleeps there... does eat there, drinks there', sits in the sun.

ciao