Hi bbmc_GAE

Are you going to fix all the utterly broken area polygons and relations, or do we reverse this? See https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=areas&lon=13.42482&lat=42.18426&zoom=13&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&opacity=0.50&overlays=duplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways%2Cduplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways Your edit set shows you had 8 geometry mismatch warnings (see above), yet you proceeded to upload this/these edits. Not good.

SekeRob

Hi, you broke the relation. The forest has disappeared from the map. relation/11683463#map=13/40.43511/15.78004
If you don't know how to fix, call SOS.M . Surely they wont be needed ;o)

happy mapping

Another ride uphill, a gentlemen in his mid seventees on church steps tells when asked that there is indeed a section in San Silvestre where the residents have for unknown to him reason San Silvestro in their documents. Reverified 102 while there and prints in big letters cnr San Silvestre, Cnr seems to stand for Cantonato, corner/intersection (new to me) which by logic would than also apply to 104/106 you mapped with San Silvestro giving that ANNCSU source again. To his knowledge there are no streetsigns by that name, just that everyone knows the main road going all the way to the B&B La Casa dei Nonni ** is Via San Silvestre, also locally known as Contrada San Silvestre. So, your colleagues while having that San Silvestro in their IDs, it's more administrative than anything. One note. Would be interesting to know if the whole village has one continuous series of civic numbers, then one has to conclude all is Contrada San Silvestre, exactly as the place tag says.

** Full address printed on the ceramic sign on the driveway.

Yes, pretty daft. But its what signed and all 4 city limit signs say San Silvestre,. An address I looked at next to the church has a stylized e at the end which could be mistaken for an o if you don't look close. At any rate, you can
put Silvestro under the official_name tag to document it. OSM only cares about on ground verifiable and commonly known, where ANNCSU continues to be off limit CC-BY 4.0 and poor at that. We have no signed waiver granted to OSM to use their poor data with adresses badly positioned, wrong building, wrong side of street and or not even existing. Houses that were or still have to be build.

Hi paoloricciotti

I have removed the duplicate loop path you named GiroMonteCristo as you drew or imported this on top of existing paths. If this is an officially name of a hiking route you need to create a *hiking route* relation like the '220' at a part of your GiroMonteCristo. See example at way/1118885605/history#map=18/42.431459/13.571695
Happy mapping.

Hi mapperrroney

Always thought that charging point was for the single socket position and charging station was for the whole. Just asking because you tagged Atlante with capacity 8 and Ewiwa with capacity 4 as charging point.

BTW, a very big bounding box for those few edits. Splitting would be good per site.

Happy Mapping
SekeRob

Well, I cycled all the way from bottom of the 29b starting at the SS16 and except for the jersey barriers 180m apart that cars can't pass but foot, bike, mofa can, the whole road was accessible till where the oneway was, now 2 way. The routing analyzer said this morning all is OK now. No massive road island that was created.

Full survey Sunday afternoon. One section along 4 houses where House Relax is, the road has fully subsided 3-4 meters. Only access for mezzi di soccorso. This will take a few years before this is restored, needs major engineering. The other section, not one I spoke to could understand why because each rain the mud comes down on the road "going on since years", was cleaned up and 'come normale'. Now they put up concrete jersey barriers closing a section of about 180m meters **. Was cleaned before they did and put special markers on road to be able to measure if there is any subsidence... the road looks completely normal. Citizen power already had taken down half of the 'Strada Interotta' fence down at the bottom corner Via San Francesco. On bike one barrier dismount, the other just cycle along the outside.
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The oneway into and out of Silvi Alta were changed to bi-directional, no parking, speed limit 20. Will clean up the unneeded access restriction tags from the rest, first the oneways needed changing so Borgo Fontescura & cemetery can be routed to for all. Checking tomorrow if there's any routing hiccups left.

** Can actually be seen in my cycle prog ESRI imagery i..e. must have been put inquite some time ago noting that ESRI & Mapbox get their sat imagery from the same operator.

Hi
QA flags this Chech republic phone number as suspecious, given the apartment is Italy. Suggest you add a note before people get into an expensive intl call

Read 'could not apply'

Was that armchair mapping? Il centro writes"Silvi rivolta per la strada chiusa dopo la frana". Think it's incumbent on any mapper to verify reality and apply the no access to only the truly affected road section. In this case the single oneway access road to Silvi paese cut off many. Such a no tag ripples thru to many navigators relying on OSM who don't update data frequently. Did you set up verification to reverse the moment the situation changes? Back when I read about this researching the SP23 group of roads including subs in early June I decided not to action. It's soon enough when people not familiar with the area to discover this on their own and approach via the main road to Atri, for likely those oneway 'out' was temp changed too. Not been there, so could apply such a grave tag on the totality of the 23b.

Hi Kanstantsin Bykauskikh

Your ESRI offset aligning needs work. For Abruzzo the Ortophoto '18-'19 20cm with UTM-33N (EPSG-32633) adjustment is gold standard reference. Added flare tags, streetlamps while there.

Happy Mapping
(JOSM keeps a library of the EPSG- offsets)

This access=no (which means not even foot) literally made the whole of Silvi Paese and surroundings unreachable for anyone and everyone who lives there so changed it to destination.

Hi,

please dont start changing tags when you have not been on site. These trolley buses are battery powered on the section there's no wire, and there is no wire from Viale Europa to Pala dean Martin and back route to the Viale Libertà.

cheers

Hi, Your boundary shows it's broken in OSMI... https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=areas&lon=13.73721&lat=43.27779&zoom=19&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&opacity=0.50&overlays=duplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways%2Cduplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways

Ran that tweak in FireFox which is non-chrome based. Got a toolbar icon which currently tells me I need to sign in to get the trace overlay.

Hi, che cosa i questo, un Bar?
GRZ
SekeRob

Errata: Includes complete redo of large orchard polygon way/261127942 which substantially had other landuses, horticultere grounds, natural wooded areas and residentials.

Went to visit on bike. The path to the cave start right at back of Carabinieri. About 250 meters down, a path, very steep concrete steps, more steps in wood thru tunnel, man made cave.
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Not where you mapped the area, it's much larger. My GPS trace was very bad, so can't map the exact path and steps route.
Caio

Mappa solo l'ingresso della grotta, indica il nome ufficiale o Il muri e allega il link che ti ho inviato con il tag osm.wiki/Tag:website=., orari di apertura quando esiste. Rimuovi l'area.