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Posted by Marcos Dione on 30 September 2021 in English.

Have you ever tried to share a location with a OSM based application with another person? I have tried many times. My issue is that I’m almost the only person not using gmaps, and so far I haven’t been able to do that successfully. At the beginning I thought it was a Google thing, where they forced their product down everybody’s throats by ignoring geo: URIs, but last night I found the reason:

Messaging applications do not recognize these URIs.

To be honest, Google does somehow force themselves on everybody’s throats: It doesn’t send geo: URIs, just a link to goo.gl. Many other Android map apps do the same, not always to goo.gl but other times to their own sites. So far I have only found OsmAnd that sends geo: links. But all of them can handle such URIs, they’re not stupid :)

Between sender and receiver there’s the messaging app, which acts a the transport. So far I have found only Element Android (Matrix’s client) that recognizes geo: URIs as links and lets Android resolve that into a map app. Other IM apps treat them as just text. Most browsers will handle geo: URIs if they’re a link in an HTML page, even on the desktop version, but most will not handle it if you type it in the location/search bar.

I know this does not seem completely related to OSM, but I think that being able to share locations from any map app (most of them OSM based), using any messaging app and viewing the location with any map app (again, most OSM based) is a good thing to have.

I started a small wiki page tracking app status and sometimes links to the issues in their bug trackers we we could go and put some pressure for support. osm.wiki/Geo_URI_scheme Go and vote in your favorite apps, or open new ones!

Posted by Nicxon Piaso on 30 September 2021 in English.

As of this week, I tried using the indoor mapping tool esp. room tags with RELATION to a particular building. I am seeing that this mapping method is now appearing in #https://openlevelup.net/?l=0#23/-6.14031/143.65817! application( OSM indoor Mapping app).

Good to see OSM being taken a step up for us a OSM Mappers in wherever we are mapping. With Indoor mapping it’s more convenient the Mapper should know what exists indoor in a Building( eg. the doors, partition walls etc). Once you are content with it you can create indoor plans. I have used a LEICA Disto in doing Room plans and the indoor mapping function complements the method of capturing details inside a Building.

Thanks to the Developers/Programmers behind this tool. I really appreciate this function and the work you are doing.

Happy Mapping!

Posted by SebastianHelm on 29 September 2021 in English.

Started editing today. Very impressive website! Coming from Wikipedia, much of it is straightforward, but the fact that discussions are attached to individual edits, not to features, takes a bit of a leap.

The tutorial was very good, only gripe is that for tracing the shape of a building they selected one that has a protrusion on the south side, but when one follows the instruction to meticulously enter the shape, it says something like “It looks like you’re having problems tracing the shape” and forces one to completely and scrupulously redo the task – until one figures out that one actually gets punished for being too meticulous! 💢

Also worked with StreetComplete, which is very convenient for the cell phone. My main wishes:

  1. Terms such as “surface=sett” should link to the wiki so that one can read the complete explanation, instead of having to guess from one tiny picture.

  2. When I mistakenly tagged the wrong building, there was no easy way to undo the mistake. There also was no one-tap way to add some attention mark (such as an exclamation point). So I ended up writing a note, but by the time I got to my PC, I didn’t see that note. Possibly someone else corrected my mistake and deleted the note, but then I would have expected to be informed in some way about that.

Posted by Biebie_matsu on 29 September 2021 in English.

I’ve worked at home for a year and a half amid the COVID-19 pandemic in Japan. These days I’ve gained weight because I seldom walk, so I make it a rule to take some walk in the evening around my neighborhood. It’s good for the OSM community to have its map around the area where I live more minute, but there are some problems. How do I record minute data such as the shape of buildings, and the names of shops and restaurants. I use my iPhone to get GPS tracking data while I’m taking a walk, but they don’t have enough information. I wonder how others acquire the enough data for drawing some buildings and identifying the point of interests.

Posted by b-unicycling on 26 September 2021 in English.

Last week, I went on a short holiday to Co. Cork, and since I seem to be a workaholic, I did A LOT of mapping. One of the things I had on my to-do list was mapping local bus routes, because I personally depend on them (because I care about the planet and don’t drive) and because they are barely mapped. Part of the reason being that some of the bus routes are fairly new. Obviously, I didn’t want to spend all my days on the bus, so I only mapped the ones I actually needed to take to get from one accommodation to the next. That was Youghal to Timoleague and then back to Cork (because the first trip was during the week and the second on a Saturday, so the bus schedule was different). I had met two women in my accommodation in Timoleague who were also only travelling on public transport, one from Dublin, one from California. They both agreed that it was very difficult, because the timetables aren’t available or do not match the actual departure time of the bus. Also, to book a ticket for Bus Éireann (which is not even possible for all their buses), you need to know the exact name of the bus stop you’re going to. You’re not gonna know that unless you know the bus stop. Some of the bus stop names refer to landmarks which are gone (pub/ shop names). So you end up asking a lot of locals to find out where the bus leaves, because a high percentage of local bus stops don’t even have a sign to mark them as bus stops. So anyway, I made a start on the routes 237, 239 and 253 using OSMTracker for Android. I guess it would be good to add payment method as well, because most of those buses only take cash and some buses (in Dublin) only take the exact change, which is something important to know.

Obviously, I did way more mapping like vacant buildings, benchmarks and jostle stones (overpass-turbo) as well as addresses (Youghal needed it).

Location: Timoleague, The Municipal District of Bandon-Kinsale, County Cork, Munster, Ireland

Context

The US NGO Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT Us Org*) organizes an election to replace five of its directors for a 2 years term.

See the election wiki for more details.

Below reads my electoral platform; it adds and draws from my answers to members questions for candidates which can be read here as a complement.

Summary

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Posted by ztztztz on 25 September 2021 in English. Last updated on 26 September 2021.

Discrimination against China and Chinese mappers SHOULD NOT exist in OpenStreepMap

This is a reply to a previous diary that has spoken evil of China and Chinese Mappers. As a Chinese OSM user I feel terribly offended, outraged and disappointed about the opinions conveyed from the diary - and I feel obliged to write a reply.

This reply is solely my own words and does NOT reflect the opinion of OSM China community, if any.

 


“Chinese Commies”? Whoever doesn’t want political nonsense in OSM is talking the most political nonsense.

Yet here we are again, the Chinese Commies just spit on everything they thought was rightful.

That was the beginning of the diary. The message was pretty clear: The author was NEVER really meant to exclude political nonsenses from OSM communty, and interestingly, he who referred Chineses as “Commies” is the most political nonsense-maker.

Typical ad hominem attack, and even as a non-communist I feel offended. Communist is called Communist, not the word commie that the author has disrespectfully spelled. And I really don’t see the point of the author mentioning communist or communism.

What I have perceived between the lines from the author is merely discrimination and hostility against China and OSM China users. And given such discrimination, I wouldn’t believe there would be any fruitful and meaningful discussion with the author.

Long story short, OpenStreetMap should not be biased against any ideology / politics / religion.

 


The Truth of Vandalism

Thanks for the detailed list that summarizes the existing vandalism from Chinese users. I believe that OSM China is also positively coping with such vandalism - and that IS what OSM China is doing right now - please refer to the so-called “Wonderful poppycock from zh-CN users”.

Vandalism from Chinese users does exist, but please do not cherrypick, exaggerate and attack.

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Location: Hochschulen, Altstadt, Zurich, District Zurich, Zurich, Switzerland

Almost one year ago, I decided to take a crack at fixing something that bugged me in the way golf courses were rendered in carto. And now that fix – or what it evolved into – is finally merged and getting deployed!

If you look at the wiki page for leisure=golf_course, you’ll find a rich vocabulary for how to (micro)map many aspects of the layout: tees, holes, pins, bunkers, so on and so on. And in many of these tags, there’s an admonition: don’t tag for the renderer just to get these features to show up. Naturally, mappers will do what they want to do, and most fairways, greens, and bunkers have accompanying landuse=grass and natural=sand tags. In fact, in iD, creating a fairway, green, rough, or tee automatically adds landuse=grass to the tags. Likewise, bunkers add natural=sand.

This is useful for making a case that carto needs to render these tags, and that there’s a general agreement on what they should look like. After much back and forth and discussion in the PRs, a consensus emerged. golf=tee, fairway, driving_range, and rough would get the same fill color as landuse=grass. rough would also get a subtle pattern on top of its fill to highlight the different length of grass. The green would get a darker shade to differentiate it from the surrounding fairway, and so golf=green would get the same color as leisure=pitch. And golf=bunker would get a natural=sand color.

On top of that, agreement was reached on rendering golf=hole, a line that shows the playing path, along with a label of its ref or name. And finally, the actual location of the hole – golf=pin – would get an icon, labeled where applicable.

One final change was updating the fill of leisure=golf_course. The original green background was a single-use color. Carto is already a green-heavy color scheme, and the opportunity was taken to remove one shade, instead using the same color as campsites.

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