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161227094

Another user has reverted your additions of MTB routes in the area based on the claim that these are unauthorised.

The current guidance for signposted closed tracks is at osm.wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Cycling_and_Foot_Paths#Closed/Illegal_Paths which maps them as access=no and under the abandoned or disused lifecycle prefix.

Can you provide any additional information on these changes on how you think we should best map these unauthorised trails?

152317733

Hello again, we've discussed this previously at changeset/144773386.

Please see osm.wiki/Why_can't_I_delete_this_trail%3F and osm.wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Cycling_and_Foot_Paths#Closed/Illegal_Paths in particular the "Current Guidance" section, which shows how these features can be tagged in OSM.

I don't doubt you at all that the "Parks department" is the only authority that has the right to make trails through National Parks. The same way that it's the OpenStreetMap community that is the only authority that decides what information we map and how we represent it in our database.

In a similar way to the US's Trails Stewardship Initiative https://openstreetmap.us/our-work/trails/ it would be good to have more collaboration between all stakeholders in Australia.

I'm going to revert these changes as they appear to be going against the current guidance, and given your comment "Unauthorised track" it seems there is no dispute that these "Illegal tracks" exist on the ground.

161199513

You can also set ref=266

161049025

My view is that cycleway should be primarily built/designed/signposted for bicycles, footway should be primarily build/designed/signposted for walkers and path for anything not really built at all just people started walking/cycling there and the ground / track formed.

123564950

lets see https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/pull/1422 I just want it there so we can translate it as "Granny Flat"

161049025

changeset/161156261 I've deleted the duplicate you've add, but wasn't sure about the tags, please go ahead and update the tags and/or geometry of the existing ways as needed.

161049025

sorry to be blunt but you've just dumped your way on top of the existing ways. Given this was already existing, you'll need to make any changes to the existing ways instead of a new one. I'll clean this up.

123564950

way/1078210123/history looks like building=annexe is the defacto tag now

161052859

Thanks. I've cleaned this up in changeset/161079913
You needed to split the street at that point and delete the section which isn't really a road. Then I added noexit=yes to make it clear you can't exit there.

161056903

If you've surveyed to confirm, then this looks good.

I tried to check on the imagery at https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=777669173118627&focus=phobut I think it's unlikely there are steps based on this.

161070556

https://osmlab.github.io/osm-deep-history/#/way/173411374

the tag is highway=cycleway not highway=cycleways

I'll fix this

160974140

These two, you can see in the history

way/1342563707/history
way/635998948/history

161044820

please let me know if this is wrong, I couldn't find much detail on the wiki

160974140

The name=* tag should only contain the name osm.wiki/Names#Name_is_the_name_only

I've corrected these in my changeset at changeset/160974140

way/1342563707
way/635998948

100866715

way/916024901/history is now paved

159521567

I've partially reverted this change in changeset/159521567 to restore the bus stop to a location not glued to the park boundary

160195851

I've changed point 5 back to a service road now as it does provide service vehicle access.

160086385

I've fixed this.

160231990

looks good.

160491282

https://osmlab.github.io/osm-deep-history/#/node/11505453837 entrance=main but noexit=yes? surely that's a bit conflicting? I've added the driveway now for connectivity.