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cf "Красивая сосна 2" here :
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?verifiable=any&id=38169368,53036446,72619263,77481012,92725277,229660854,276495336

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Hi @ivan957
If you have photos of this tree, you could put it on an iNaturalist Observation, cf. :
ref:inaturalist.org=*

I have a project ton link OSM and iNaturalist :
https://sylvain-m.github.io/divers/osm/inaturalist/inat_2_osm_map.html

(soon, observations photos will be available on the map)

181444033

👍🤗😀

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New try for iNaturalist link :

One obs :
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/304277023

All obs :
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?verifiable=any&place_id=any&field:OpenStreetMap%20(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:OSM)=https:%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fnode%2F13004387623

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This Trees/nodes :
node/13736873108
node/13736873109
node/13736873110
node/13736873111

Are duplicated from this node :
node/13004387623

This Ficus is a sigle tree with a single ref:masaf key

I think you should remove this nodes.

You can see this tree on iNaturalist with this link, based on node/13004387623 ref :
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?verifiable=any&place_id=any&field:OpenStreetMap%20(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:OSM)=https:%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fnode%2F13004387623

22114132

En fait, non, ce serait plutôt celui-ci :
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/353091745

Mais c'est aussi un Courbaril (Hymenaea courbaril), pas un manguier.

51433484

En fait, non, ce serait plutôt celui-ci :
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/353091745

Mais c'est aussi un Courbaril (Hymenaea courbaril), pas un manguier.

51433484

Salut @Seb973
(j'ai aussi posé la question à @Stephixus qui a initialement créé le node)

Cet arbre (node/2834596689) ne serait-il pas celui-ci sur iNaturalist :
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/192631871

(il y a 6 photos sur l'observation)

Si c'est le cas, on peut mettre à jour l'espèce (Courbaril : Hymenaea courbaril), et faire le lien avec l'observation :
ref:inaturalist.org=*

22114132

Salut @Stephixus

Cet arbre (node/2834596689) ne serait-il pas celui-ci sur iNaturalist :
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/192631871

(il y a 6 photos sur l'observation)

Si c'est le cas, on peut mettre à jour l'espèce (Courbaril : Hymenaea courbaril), et faire le lien avec l'observation :
ref:inaturalist.org=*

169014752

I didn’t take the photo myself, but it’s a well-geotagged iNaturalist observation that matches the various street photos available.
You’re right about the second one, south of Piazzale Aldo Moro: I’ve moved the trees to more precise locations based on the aerial photos, and removed the ‘fixme’.
Here is the changeset: changeset/183641841

169014752

Sorry, I originally posted from my work account, but I’ve just made the change from my personal account.
I should add that I can only see one remarkable Ficus tree on Google Street View

179100841

According to this iNaturalist Observation (https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/147269577) this tree is Ceiba pentandra, without any doubt.
Who says it is Adansonia digitata ?

159182395

Hi @FLCartographer
Are you sure for the species Quercus geminata for "Serenitree" (node/12344493920) ?
iNaturalist Observations describe it as Quercus virginiana :
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/144012556
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/180347216

181894127

To stimulate discussion, I have created a page [1] that will be updated daily (via this script [2]) to display the iNaturalist <> OSM mapping table.
The raw data is available (CSV, PY, HTML) in this repository [3].
I should point out that I used AI to help generate these scripts: a skilled human would no doubt have done a better job! But it works well!

[1] https://sylvain-m.github.io/divers/osm/inaturalist/

[2] https://github.com/sylvain-m/divers/blob/main/osm/inaturalist/inat_2_osm.py

[3] https://github.com/sylvain-m/divers/tree/main/osm/inaturalist

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> ou can add the OSM Object ID as an observation field within iNat

This is for iNat > OSM link, and I'm agree, it's OK.

But for OSM > iNat link, there is actually no way.

> new iNat observations over time, do we then keep adding more and more iDs to ref:inaturalist.org

Yes, what's the matter with that ?

I think it's the same goal of key:panoramax or key:mapillary keys, for example.

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> That should be done on the iNaturalist website.

This is already possible, thanks to the ‘OpenStreetMap (OSM)’ observation field : https://www.inaturalist.org/observation_fields/17260

But this remains invisible to OSM users.

One solution would have been to include a link based on this observation field (such as this one: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?verifiable=any&place_id=any&field:OpenStreetMap%20(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:OSM)=https:%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fnode%2F9922802696) but this was considered too complex for a osm.wiki/Tag:url=, for example.

A link based on identifiers seems to me to be the most effective and simplest solution.

> A single relation between an OSM node and an iNaturalist page aggregating all observations of that OSM node would be a lot better. Would that be possible?

This is already possible using a list of IDs (as explained on the wiki page for the tag ref:inaturalist.org). Here is an example:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?verifiable=any&id=351263875,207552396,134700522,113752724,93114706,14675031

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Here is another example that illustrates the value of adding this information:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/344757666

This link between the two platforms is a ‘win-win’ collaboration : users of both platforms will benefit from it. iNaturalist users can view other observations of the same tree, and OpenStreetMap users can view photos and identifications of a tree mapped on OSM.

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I’d be happy to explain why adding this external reference seems useful for me.
The nodes associated with these iNaturalist identifiers are almost exclusively trees (natural=tree). These trees may be the subject of iNaturalist observations. In this case, adding the identifiers of these observations to the nodes allows a link to be made between these OSM objects and the observation records, which contain photos and a collaborative taxonomic identification (species/genus).
This adds value to OSM for all users/contributors interested in trees.
This interest has been confirmed on the French-speaking forum at this address: https://forum.openstreetmap.fr/t/inaturalist-osm-arbres

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Actually, I didn’t consider it an ‘import’ because I didn’t add any new trees to OSM, and I only updated a single tag for just over a hundred nodes.
I did check the data thoroughly before adding it.
But I understand the caution @mcliquid : if this process needs to be reversed, I’m happy to discuss it in a dedicated forum thread (in French, as I’m less comfortable with English).
Regarding the use of the semicolon (there is not any dot), it seems to me that this is well suited to this case of multiple identifier values:
osm.wiki/Semi-colon_value_separator

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You can get all iNaturalist observation with OSM field with this link :
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?verifiable=any&place_id=any&field:OpenStreetMap%20(OSM)