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181815628

One cause is when ID doesn't have the full MP downloaded it will not warn for mistakes like unclosed and duplicate edges. There's a button next to the a relation to fetch all (when not all are downloaded) to get the proper warnings. That said, once understanding the issue, it took less than a minute to redraw a section of the changed outline, in JOSM naturelmente ;o). Follow/trace in this editor works like 1000 nodes a minute.... just hold the F key after the second node drawn and it will continue till the next cut, and if no cut, loop around ad infinitum when not looking at the screen ;o). AFAIK ID has the follow/trace function too to bigly speed up mapping side sharing polygons without need of cutting up and creating more breakable relations, like this one proofed to be brittle.

happy mapping
SekeRob

181815628

Hi dp7

Dont traced where the farmland relation got flagged as broken, so fixed it (some areas were nolonger inside) and added a few bits like wood patches and power line objects. Renders OK now, lest there was intend of the natural=wood tag on the farmland outline.

happy mapping
SekeRob

The CS relation/14605029#map=16/43.39597/12.91257

181749440

PS. It was actually a split off from a path that had that name, just before and still carries this name value as of this moment. Tagged the split as (farm) track, which is why it was v1.

181749440

Hi,

There's actually a few dozen of these ways with this id3king reference out in the area you can root out (also some have ref:id3king as a tag). Seems from searching these comes from an external project and helps somehow to interface with OSM. Just left it, got other chickens to fry.

ciao

181423058

Hi fbyron

This 'outbuilding' you mapped got flagged because the street name in addr:street was incorrect... it's Strada Pandolfi, not Via. Since I did not remember that building ever having been there I put a note on it and today cycled by and took some pictures.
1) There are per a sign 2 parochial functions covered here at this location for San Giovanni B. and San Benedetto A. Also the parking/pedestrian area this is an Emergency Assembly Point.
https://d2exd72xrrp1s7.cloudfront.net/www/1o/1oegvebzxq8s91bhbxv2x8w0ny5r91teu2-p698501425-full/19da0ad15f9?width=1680&crop=false&q=70
2) The building you mapped is not above ground and remembering the construction period which took longer, there's no underground facility. Can only see an area that is blocked by movable bollards and planters. At times these are moved to the side to add more parking space but that is only rarely.
https://d2exd72xrrp1s7.cloudfront.net/www/41/41e6i173jhvy1pjftny8fhz2w5r91tfoe-p698501444-full/19da0ad1a32?width=1680&crop=false&q=70
Please let me know what's up with this. The wiki says this tag is used for minor/secondary builings but not regular outdoor areas. building=outbuilding
For now, I'll map the whole area including the backside parts, parking, pitch as a religious landuse zone. Maybe you can explain the source of the building, but on the ground per my survey today (follow image links above to view), it does not exist.

Happy Mapping
SekeRob

PS, we don't put descriptions of gates, ways etc in the name tag. I've removed those while reviewing your mappings of the past week. You can put those in 'description=*' and 'description:it=*' (latter tag is for those who choose to show the map in Italian instead of default English.

148499749

Hi,

On one side it appears as a corner street name, on the backside it has an arrow. Usually country roads get the name of the locality where it is leading to, now seeing on Bing that the road is called 'Via Sant'Elena' and the road ref SP57. Have updated OSM adding destination:backward Frazione Sant'Elena per the direction sign.

Happy mapping
SekeRob

177186902

Thanks for replying so quick. I now suspect you meant the ref: tag to be ref:id3king of which there are only 18 worldwide on OSM and then the value =279. I'll correct it when my mouse gets near the track again. (easy to find with JOSM)
TTYL
SekeRob

177186902

Hi bigpaolo

Can you tell me what the key 'ref:' is? You added this to this 'path' which actually has to be changed to a farm highway=track as used by 4 wheel agricultural and the farmer's (4wd) car no doubt. Given surface=ground it needs to have tracktype grade4 or grade5. Routers do not allow motorvehicle use on these ways with the path value. The 'ref:' key has been applied 24x worldwide... think it is not correct, maybe something missing.

Please correct.
Happy mapping
SekeRob

PS I truly do not understand why all the hiker mappers put highway=path on these farm tracks and 99 out of 100 withoout grading. It misleads bicycle routers as well as without qualification they'll send racing bikes up these ways. Only tracktype grade4/5 stops this happening.

181158968

OK, resolved... the natural=wood tag was also on the forest outline way. Now it renders correctly.

181099386

Hi,

You added tags to a house added addr:street=contrada Villa Sibi which the address check program fails to find. The nearest road is Contrada San Comino which multiple mappers have confirmed. Where is this street on the OSM map as the address check fails? Also you changed steps to living_street. If the street are factually steps or flat steps, it's still deemed steps for OSM mapping purposes as living street would confuse routers. Can bicycles ascend, descend on this way without dismounting?

happy mapping.

179936498

Hi,

Are you sure this is the residential area and not the administrative boundary of Monte Mignone as there is an awful lot of farmland included in the area.

Let us know as right now the tagging is flagged as incorrect to include a free standing label node cannot be part of a multipolygon

cheers

179913147

Hi,

Made you tattoo parlor a separate Point of interest from the entrance address and added shop=tattoo to make it visible on the map.

cheers

179972340

Hi sscotty71

Don't know for whom you made these wetland tags on viewpoints, renamed a street as seeming some walking route and used generic names like scene 1, 2, 3, 4 but these have no place on Openstreetmap. I have undone them. If these were for same external project, then I suggest u look and umap to store this and use it for you project.

I've copied this comment to one of change sets to for public awareness

cheers

100339208

Hi ivanbranco

Followed your suggestion and applied the species: prefix. Oddly with the recently added wikidata/pedia JOSM plugin it jumped me to Q721 which has the comment that the tag is a zoo,
At any rate the plant if entering in the browser comes up correct. We can see it, or rather the tower from the living, some 15km as the crow flies and an hour on the bike to get to the Francavilla pier which points at the tower. Asking locals about it while preparing the entry, the became rather coy about it. It's a subject which made it to the local news circulation.. in 2024 with the headline "Posidonia, quella torre sul mare che l’Abruzzo rischia di perdere"
At any rate, it's standing strong after 32 years,

Cheers
SekeRob

PS, it could be a (plant) zoo, as asking in a different way gave another wikidata link, but same picture.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q877147

179572126

Hi,

Quale e i typo del Caritas social_facility=? ... group home, shelter, nursing home...

Ciao

140641359

I'll let them be. Think most of the green is shrubby/scrubby in these zones
Cheers

179795533

Now Broken,
relation/11555469
You break it, You fix it

140641359

Hi dp7

You may have seen me going around mapping a lot in this region and splitting up forests with too many members. Today while 3 way splitting a 413 member one with countless small 'outer' sections too, stumbled on many scree areas that were not made 'inner'. Was that to be done or is there a 'for rendering' reason (something a mapper acknowledged up in the Alps/Dolomites.... all these zones seem to have more or less scrub growing in them of low to medium coverage.

Cheers
SekeRob

152766265

3D Bing Sat image of the RAC NW of Chieti Scalo where it splits pointing left lane SS5 and right lane A25. Those markers are fresh paint.

https://www.bing.com/maps/search?style=3d&q=Chieti+Scalo&cp=42.340763%7E14.130918&lvl=19.9&eh=98.48

152766265

Hi,

Plz see pictures taken on 06-03-2026 at various points between 216.6 and 241km along the ol Tiburtina Valeria (Don't know where the rest of the conversation went when you proposed to move SR5 to a reg_ref like tag, but the one appearing on the regular map is where the 'ref' tag applies.

At about 222 junction near the Megalo
https://d2exd72xrrp1s7.cloudfront.net/www/55/55eglfq8aeg11e2cvc79nx24q5pjgcsbt-p684074466-full/19cc2adf79c?width=1680&crop=false&q=70

At about 217.5, where you can see the sign had a black S put on (it's always between like that, also my old cloud archive photos from 2021 shows this.
https://d2exd72xrrp1s7.cloudfront.net/www/fl/flgn2662k21x14p04zhy4t8fk5pjgcu4n-p684074473-full/19cc2ae00fa?width=1680&crop=false&q=70

At about 228 just before the Pescara Ovest motorway entrance:
https://d2exd72xrrp1s7.cloudfront.net/www/1q/1qryrscsnbc9auuaosxz7ois25pjgcw0b-p684074482-full/19cc2ae0b21?width=1680&crop=false&q=70

In Santa Teresa connection between the SS602 and SS5 from both directions:
https://d2exd72xrrp1s7.cloudfront.net/www/x0/x0crrqyqjonsupdb50or6zvt5pjgcxhp-p684074492-full/19cc2ae11fc?width=1680&crop=false&q=70

Every single sign and massive road markings on the RAC between Pescara and Chieti it says SS5 Tiburtina or SS5 Popoli.

All hectometer markers from 216.6 i.e. 216.VI have been gone since long i.e. one can only go by the direction and destination signs.

As written before about the OSM 'on the ground' rule (wiki has just been refreshed) and the short-circuited brainwave of some penpushers, the reversal back to SS5 between any KM between Pescara Porta Nuova and Pratola Preligna is overdue. You can undo your edits or I'll bring in the howitzer reversing tool of JOSM. Where SR5 goes I frankly don't care. It was a paper excersize and far as I remember the story, they did not know how fast to reverse when they realized what the overeagerness would result in.

ciao