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183650021

I tried it today - it seems to have worked... the packages are loading... I didn't touch the old package I saved that wouldn't load anymore... I'll be editing everything again... I noticed a lot of empty points, these are points from field roads and objects that I tried to load... I'm gradually deleting them or creating them again...

183650021

I edited it to remove the "\" and added new objects, but when I try to upload the changes, I get error code 429 and the message "Rate limit exceeded"... I saved the osm file in JOSM, tried sending it later - it still gives an error... I tried sending it in fragments, and even one at a time - it still gives the same error... and specifically in "Sheki"... I corrected it in other regions, everything is fine there, there are no errors... what should I do?..

183577778

Thank you. I'll take that into account.

183213088

I will share my concerns in the forum thread when I deem it necessary... but for now I only ask you... obviously, the reactions of users in the thread that you have inflated are not in favor of your arguments, and I am already convinced that this state of affairs is pushing you to actions that you have not fully comprehended...

183213088

I'm concerned about the biased and undisguised interest with which you're concentrating all your efforts on the map of my country, Azerbaijan, and specifically on my editing. I ask you once again - return everything to the way it was... otherwise, I'll do it...

183213088

Please return everything to the way it was... Otherwise, I'll do it myself as soon as I find the time and have the opportunity...

182991664

Thank you for the link... I've been a member of OSM for 13 years and i'm familiar with the editing rules...
Good luck to you...

182991664

я уже отметил выше:
"...Azerbaijan (including the names of ordinary cafes) there is also the name of the city, and sometimes the district… That’s why it is displayed on the board at the entrance to the institution… For example, “Press Distribution Center \ Khirdalan city \ Absheron District” (Press Distribution Center \ Khirdalan city \ Absheron District). … This is the specificity of names in Azerbaijan… For example, in Azerbaijan there are 26 villages with the name of Khajmaz in different districts, so usually the specific name of the district is added immediately after the name of the settlement…
You will see that I am trying to edit a map for my country, which will be convenient for everyone, not only visitors, but also local residents(!)...
Sincerely...

182991664

I didn't notice any decision was made on this issue, otherwise management probably would have warned me by now over the past two years.
I'll repeat again, if you point out the rule that says I can't write " \ " in the title, then we can return to the discussion...
Thank you...
Sincerely...

182991664

Hello..
its "\"... not "/"
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This issue has already been discussed here on the forum:

https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/concerns-about-azerbaijan/113039/

Regarding the use of the sign " \ " in titles. If it’s honest, then I didn’t find any remarks in the rules of OSM about prohibiting the use of the sign " \ "… If you know such a point, then indicate it here. By what logic is the " \ " character unacceptable?
I will give you a quote from one of my answers to a user who raised a similar “problem”:
“I want to inform you that in most names of state, public and private institutions in Azerbaijan (including the names of ordinary cafes) there is also the name of the city, and sometimes the district… That’s why it is displayed on the board at the entrance to the institution… For example, “Press Distribution Center \ Khirdalan city \ Absheron District” (Press Distribution Center \ Khirdalan city \ Absheron District). … This is the specificity of names in Azerbaijan… For example, in Azerbaijan there are 26 villages with the name of Khajmaz in different districts, so usually the specific name of the district is added immediately after the name of the settlement…”
I wish you to visit Azerbaijan, and use the existing OSM map instead. You will see that I am trying to edit a map for my country, which will be convenient for everyone, not only visitors, but also local residents(!).
Sincerely...

155848839

Hello... You're right, it's my mistake. I'll fix it today... Thank you...

173245344

It was an accidental mistake on my part, I can't even remember how I did it. I noticed you already fixed it...OK.

160651437

Hello, dear woodpeck...
the thing is that there are several reasons for this.. one of the reasons is the wrong name in Russian, and you are right that I should have noted this in the comments...
another reason is that our state language is Azerbaijani, and this very strict rule applies to everything without exception.. in addition, we have the Latin alphabet, and even semi-literate Russian tourists will have no trouble understanding the names of settlements...
another reason is that the OSM overview map of the world contains the names of only large cities and regional centers of Azerbaijan - and these names are written in several languages ​​of the world - English, French, German, Russian and others.. small settlements are not displayed in the overview map, so there is no need to write them, for example, in Russian...

in any case, I thank you for your letter, and I think next time I will try to take your comments into account..

with respect..

133684477

Dear... I did not create the changeset "Villa Saleh Mammadov (Azeravtoyol ASC)" and a "Villa Alirza Suleymanov (ADY ASC)"... these points were created by user Araz2018 on 2018-04-08 15:01..
changeset/57910212#map=17/40.480126/50.143216

perhaps when editing this area I accidentally moved these points to buildings that could have been this object.. or during editing there was an unauthorized shift of these two points.. that is, I did not create these points and names...

regarding the complaint to DWG that I allegedly abuse OSM to publish personal information about politicians - I hear about this for the first time... I responsibly declare that I am not involved in politics at all, and never did not publish anyone's personal information... this is a mistake towards me... with respect...

162260482

Dear Woodpeck… I am writing the title of the comment this way, because in one edit I try to edit the roads of a given village, town or district as much as possible.. writing a more detailed extensive comment turns out to be very long and inconvenient… in any case, thank you for writing to me, and I will try to take your comments into account and adhere to them… with respect…

154111040

Hello dear NeretvaRiver.
I would also like to note that the first link you provided concerns simple intersections 1+2 and 2+2, and not a road junction with a roundabout, and this rule is not a dogma(!) for a roundabout.
Regarding the second link, it says that the point of intersection of two lines is needed for the router to correctly determine the route options. In our case, the point you mark creates an erroneous route, since there is already a link to this point from this road to the right.
Also, I would like to notify you that I know and studied all the points you cited when I started working at OSM 12 years ago. I myself live in Azerbaijan, and due to my professional activities I know all the road regions in the country very well. It may not seem modest, but I note that 75% of the map of Azerbaijan was edited by me. That is, in terms of experience and editing practice, I seem to be doing quite well. The rules for editing in OSM themselves were created on the basis of agreements between OSM participants (every written rule begins with this phrase), and my experience shows that they are not ideal and are regularly adjusted.
Sincerely.

154111040

hello...
The link you provided provides editing rules when “a single-lane roadway intersects a two-lane roadway,” and this rule has nothing to do with this node, which we are talking about...
Moreover, you set the turn restrictions incorrectly - instead of “straight only” you used the “straight and left” restriction (i.e. right turns are prohibited)..
Taking into account all that has been said, I removed the node point and I think this is the right decision...
Sincerely...

154111040

Hello dear...
This is the second time (and there have been many such cases before) that you connect two nodes with a point that is absolutely unnecessary... there is a roundabout and a link to the right, which quite cope with the traffic rules at this junction... the connection point has been set creates an extra burden for you - I repeat, there is a circle and a link to the right...
Please, next time, before correcting my editing, contact me, and I will be happy to give an explanation... if I made a mistake, I will figure it out and definitely correct it...
Sincerely...

139264998

Hello... I have been editing OSM maps for more than 10 years, and I have considerable experience… I constantly travel around the regions of Azerbaijan due to my occupation, and I can say that there is no place in the country where I have not been , sometimes even several times… And wherever I go, I make notes about roads, objects, record tracks, etc…. Moreover, I note a lot and make edits in OSM directly on the spot, using the program “Organic Maps” is very convenient and fast… In addition, I have many acquaintances in the regions of Azerbaijan who are ready to give me the necessary information about certain objects of interest to me, about new buildings, about changes in roads, etc… In addition, I receive auxiliary information from our website “Navigator.az”, which contains information and the location of most significant and iconic objects of Azerbaijan, which is regularly updated and always relevant… I am listing all this to You so that You understand that working on OSM maps is not just a hobby for me, but a more important activity, one might say, much more important than many of my other activities and interests.. 10 years ago, when I started, the map of Azerbaijan looked like a desert :-)… I don’t I want to praise myself, but my contribution to editing the map of my country is almost 72%.. I find complacency in this and am proud of it… Moreover, I am a member of the Azerbaijan Navigation Society and this places even greater responsibility on me, and I try to be as objective and accurate as possible…

Regarding the tag “amenity=townhall”… The fact is that there are navigation programs that are mainly used in Azerbaijan (City Guide, Guru Maps, Organic Maps), and these programs, when using maps from OSM, do not accurately reflect some objects, and sometimes they simply do not display them, for example, the same objects with the tag “office=company” are simply not displayed… I understand that this is a sin of the developers of these navigation programs, but as a result, the navigator is missing many objects that are important for users… For example, “office=company” is not displayed, but “office=government” is already displayed, as is “amenity=townhall”… I’m already gradually changing the “amenity=townhall” I wrote into “office=government”… There are many such issues with tags, and I try to gradually correct them by comparing the result in a specific navigation program… This takes a lot of time…

Regarding adding the name of the city to the name of the object, for example “Dostliq Kafe \ Xirdalan”.. I would like to inform You that in most of the names of state, public and private institutions in Azerbaijan (including the names of ordinary cafes) the name of the city is also present, and sometimes district… In addition, this is displayed on the board at the entrance to the institution… For example, “Metbuat Yayimi Menteqesi \ Xırdalan sheheri \ Absheron Rayonu” (Press Distribution Center \ Khirdalan city \ Absheron District)… The fact is that in Azerbaijan there are a lot of identical names, and in order to initially identify them correctly, the name of the settlement is added… This is the specificity of names in Azerbaijan… For example, in Azerbaijan there are 26 villages with the name Xacmaz in different areas, so usually immediately after the name of the settlement is added a specific name of the area… Believe me, for normal navigation in Azerbaijan, the usual naming methods in OSM are not enough… I know this from my own practice… And as far as I know, the OSM rules do not prohibit adding the name of the city to the name of the object… Moreover, I repeat again, some navigation programs do not accept the “addr:city” tag, and this is the fault of these programs, but the navigation user should not experience any difficulties…

There are often cases when an irresponsible OSM user deliberately distorts the names of objects (sometimes government ones) with obscene and offensive words.. Identifying such cases would bring more benefit to the OSM community than what you note in my work...

Considering the above, I would like to ask You not to correct the names that I edited, and I ask You to trust my responsibility and integrity in this matter.. I live here, I know the local specifics, and I try to do everything for the convenience of the average navigation user…

Thank You again for Your comments and advice… I consider them important… I was glad to communicate with You..

138118275

ok... I just fixed the error... thank you...