Correction: Source used was Vantor satellite imagery via Vantor Hub 2026-10-05

Hello Jsjajshahshsjwhhs and welcome to OSM! Thank you for mapping.

I noticed you have been making changes around the village of Caramujo.

For example, you reclassified this highway: way/441340486#map=19/-15.842897/-57.863441

This highway is better aligned with the definition of highway=trunk_link rather than highway=trunk. Based on osm.wiki/Highway_link, as “it connects through lanes of highways to other roadways of all types, where the linking way is not the main line of either of the highways being linked but forms the connection between them.” Let me know if you have any issue with me reclassifying this highway to a highway_link.

I am also curious of your source for the addition of name=AVENIDA DIEGO LANDIM. That name already appears on a nearby feature heading in a different direction.

Regards,
EarlEBird

Hello Silvoney Constancio, I hope you are doing well. I noticed some recent classification changes in Jequié. For example, Avenida Adelino de Melo Oliveira (way/1482950188) was changed to highway=trunk, but highway=primary seems more appropriate due to the to the fact that it ends on the primary classed Avenida Governador Aurélio Viana (way/312758419).
According to the OSM Wiki, highway=trunk are “Main routes between urban centers with more than 200,000 inhabitants” (osm.wiki/Pt:Tag:highway%3Dtrunk) and highway=primary are major arterial roads or main roads (osm.wiki/Pt:Tag:highway%3Dprimary).

I also noticed former residential roads such as way/223417497, way/223417492 and way/260222050 were changed to highway=primary, but appear to align better with the characteristics of highway=residential. These do not function as major main roads described for primaries on the OSM wiki as "the most important arterial pathways in urban areas”.

In a previous discussion the use of addr:postcode was mentioned: (changeset/178325920).
According to OSM policy, ZIP codes should be added in separate addr:postcode tags instead of name tags. For example, the ZIP code is included in the name tag here: way/223417497. Additionally, OSM policy states that address related information should not be included in name tagging. name=*#When_not_to_use.

Based on this information, would you be open to updating these classifications and name tags to better align with OSM guidelines?

Thanks for your time, and I look forward to hearing from you!

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Olá Silvoney Constancio, espero que esteja bem. Notei algumas mudanças recentes na classificação de rodovias em Jequié. Por exemplo, a Avenida Adelino de Melo Oliveira (way/1482950188) foi alterada para highway=trunk, mas highway=primary parece mais apropriado, visto que termina na Avenida Governador Aurélio Viana (way/312758419), classificada como principal.

De acordo com o OSM Wiki, highway=trunk são “Rotas principais entre centros urbanos com mais de 200.000 habitantes” (osm.wiki/Pt:Tag:highway%3Dtrunk) e highway=primary são vias arteriais principais ou estradas principais (osm.wiki/Pt:Tag:highway%3Dprimary).

Notei também que antigas vias residenciais, como way/223417497, way/223417492 e way/260222050, foram alteradas para highway=primary, mas parecem se alinhar melhor com as características de highway=residential. Essas vias não funcionam como as principais vias descritas no wiki do OSM como "as vias arteriais mais importantes em áreas urbanas".

Em uma discussão anterior, foi mencionado o uso de addr:postcode: (changeset/178325920).

De acordo com a política do OSM, os CEPs devem ser adicionados em tags addr:postcode separadas, em vez de tags de nome. Por exemplo, o CEP está incluído na tag de nome aqui: way/223417497. Além disso, a política do OSM afirma que informações relacionadas a endereços não devem ser incluídas nas etiquetas de nome. name=*#When_not_to_use.

Com base nessas informações, você estaria disposto(a) a atualizar essas classificações e etiquetas de nome para melhor se alinharem às diretrizes do OSM?

Agradeço sua atenção e aguardo seu retorno!

Hello ikopanjirukmana,

I appreciate your contribution to this discussion. Thank you for the information about Jalan Nasional and clarifying the credibility of the resource provided by the Indonesian government.

Irfan_Muriy,

Thank you for taking the time to discuss highway classifications and share your resources with me!

Terima kasih,
EarlEBird

Greetings again Irfan_Muriy!
Thank you for providing the resource to the National Roads in Fakfak. Your response is greatly appreciated.

Is this resource (http://sigpjj.binamarga.pu.go.id/iyo/record/index/?data=104&page=1&sort=-kd_ruas) recognized and used by the Indonesia OpenStreetMap community? My understanding is that the classification structure in this area should reflect the OSM policy specified on the wiki.openstreetmap.org webpages.

I also want to kindly ask your opinion about changing the main highway=trunk roads in Fakfak to highway=primary based on the following information:
Fakfak is considered a “kabupaten” or “regency”, and the boundary is admin_level=5 based on the OSM tagging of relation/14954918.
Kabupaten are assigned to admin_level=5 per Indonesia tagging conventions (osm.wiki/Indonesia#Tagging_conventions).
The Indonesia Tagging Guidelines for Roads (osm.wiki/Indonesian_Tagging_Guidelines#Roads) state that highway=primary or Primary Roads are the “main road in a regency (kabupaten) or city”.
This information has led me to believe that highway=trunk should be downgraded to highway=primary in Fakfak.

Thank you for your time,
EarlEBird

Hello Irfan_Muriy! I appreciate your response.

May I ask if there is an available webpage or resource for the provincial regulations that you are referring to?

I am also wondering if you would agree with revising the highway=trunk roads in the Fakfak area to secondary and tertiary classifications.
Per the Indonesian Tagging Guidelines on the OSM Wiki (osm.wiki/Indonesian_Tagging_Guidelines#Roads), highway=trunk follow the criteria of “Roads that go between major administrative areas” or connect “place=city”.

highway=secondary and highway=tertiary connect towns and villages, which I believe would be more appropriate for the roads in this area.
For example, the highways at way/545502887 and way/545502886 are both currently highway=trunk, but the Indonesia Tagging Guidelines may support highway=secondary because this road connects several villages and districts.

What are your thoughts on changing highway=trunk to highway=secondary or highway=tertiary in the Fakfak area?

Thanks,
EarlEBird

Hello Irfan_Miruy! Thank you for mapping.

I noticed you are reclassifying highways to highway=trunk here (changeset/131142963) and here (changeset/131764372). These classifications are not consistent with OSM policy(highway=trunk) and the Indonesian Tagging Guidelines (osm.wiki/Indonesian_Tagging_Guidelines#Roads).

Would you be open to collaborating on the highway classifications around this area?

Thanks,
EarlEBird

Correction: Esri World Imagery was used.

Correction: OSM Data was also cited.

Correction: Mapillary was also cited.

Also used Yandex Panorama to confirm permitted turn maneuvers using road markings.

Hello literan, thank you for reaching out.

I added “access=permissive” to this barrier based on the Yandex Panorama, as well as the definition of “permissive” found on the Russian OSM wiki (osm.wiki/RU:Key:access#Значения). I believed that the presence of the lift gate suggests that permission to enter can be revoked at any time, but now I understand now that this location is not open for free access by vehicles. May I ask why you replaced the “access” tag with “motor_vehicle”? Do you believe access is different for pedestrians/cyclists? Also, what are your thoughts on the use of “barrier=gate” vs “barrier=lift_gate” in this situation, as it appears the metal gate may close in front of the lift_gate?

EarlEBird

Похоже мы согласны с тем, что южный объезд лучше подходит для регионального проезда чем старый Р-217 через Гудермес. Это подтверждает новая позиция тегов/отношений «int_ref = E 50», а также новый дизайн, который похож на автомагистраль. Я понижу классификацию старого Р-217 до «highway=primary». Спасибо за помощь!

Привет et2t, спасибо за информацию. Я ценю ваш быстрый ответ. Согласитесь ли вы с тем, что старое шоссе P-217 следует реклассифицировать в качестве "highway=primary”?

Hello et2t, thank you for mapping. Is the trunk road with the P-217 ref traveling through Гудермес still valid?

EarlEBird

Agreed, thanks!

Hi Kovoschiz, thanks for reaching out. The imagery I referenced does not provide clear evidence that the previous road layout will be retained, and did not want to make any assumptions. I understood the “construction=landuse” polygons present here to represent this project, which suggest that this area is still subject to change. I reviewed the OSM wikis regarding construction (construction=*, highway=construction) and am not aware that this is an established best practice.

Let me know if you have any questions,
EarlEBird