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182169312

Is it really redundant? There is also the Lullin site.

9900155

int_name=* = Schweiz ?

I'd remove this or change it to name:la

181675976

Question is answered in changeset/181729105

181825256

I'm ok with that.

default_language is mostly set in regions, but still needs work around CH-GR.

165154901

> As far as I can tell, @imagoiq is looking at data of cooperatives owning buildings, and updating these. They explained that several times already, and I think explained it well.

So can you summarize the sources for this changeset?

181825256

To solve this in your direction, I guess there several solutions:

- remove the tag entirely
- add multiple values as in name (so it aligns therewith). The wiki mentions that this isn't preferred, but used that way.
- align name with name:la
- define default_language for all subregions (so "la" is only applied where relevant).

181825256

> **"default_language=de" for the whole country is also questionable

That seems wrong to me. The agreed upon common country-name for Switzerland is in Latin. This is found everywhere in the country (check next time) and has been stable since the 19th century (see article).

It's possible that the linguistic compromise isn't the same in other countries. I read in Germany, it's illegal to edit maps in anything but "de".

Neither Latin nor German are commonly spoken ("loquitur" as you wrote) in the country, but this isn't relevant.

default_language=de might have lead to "de" poping up in odd places in Switzerland. Problems I started fixing.

> Latin is not used for place names, street names, or any other on-the-ground naming.

This isn't relevant either, as the tag will only apply to the country-level as cantons, districts, etc. have different defaults.

Samples:

for relation/1687730 it's "it",

for relation/1684782 it's "fr",

for relation/1686703 it's "de",

etc.

> “Always use just one language code per region”

I don't think the key ever had several values. You might be confusing it with other places. The value here shouldn't have any adverse effects. Is there something you think could go "clearly wrong"?

> Could you clarify what data consumer benefit you expect from setting "default_language=la"?

The default <language> allows users to select the name:<language> for the country (name:la that is), if they choose not to use the current value in "name" directly.

165154901

> What was the basis for this edit?
Add owner to a single feature instead of three just describes the edit it doesn't explain what it was based on. This could be a survey, gchg.ch .. etc.

> I honestly think that this issue is not solvable country-wide.
Seems obvious.

165154901

I got the same impression from @imagoiq .. even more so in the forum. Maybe I should report their conduct there.

The roof issue is relatively easy to do, but I haven't noticed imagoiq editing roofs, so it might as well be a rhetorical question, one I don't want to volunteer time for.

181729105

Oh, I see trivial issue. ID of the relation was applied to a node instead. (I sometimes do that too)

181675976

What's the connection between node/19630033/history/1 and version 2 of the node ?

181729105

Can you answer my questions?

165154901

The question appears to be irrelevant to that thread.

I note that you don't want to provide a clear answer about the basis for your edit.

165154901

Once answered, I will try.

165154901

I think for this changeset, we would still want a clear answer on the initial question.

165154901

I would understand "ground" truth as actually surveying it myself on site, rather than looking at the ground on a copy-pasted aerial view at a misspelled webpage of a federation about its members.

If you seek ways for improvements when hestitating between using one building or several buildings then you should consider adding also building:part for each in the first case. If your task requires you to have one OSM feature for the "barre d'immeubles" you could also draw a way around them or use a relation. Deleting just to match the requirement seems to me like a bad approach.

What owners or operators consider a "bâtiment" rarely matches an OSM building and even when it does, we might not able to map it as such as they might not own or operator it in its entirety.

It appears to me that "owner" cannot be surveyed on the ground (in Switzerland). Even if there is a plaque "owner" it's likely outdated or imprecise.

I don't see any editing of roofs in the changeset so the question seems off topic.

178699080

should be ok now: changeset/181842812

178699080

There are still more mapped by you at https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/2oGj . I can change them for you.

181825256

Electio confoederationis pro nomine eius est lingua Latina ab saeculo XIX.

https://hls-dhs-dss.ch/it/articles/009827/2020-09-15/

Linguae a cantonibus electae discrepant.

181762007

I can fix them if you prefer. It can be done fairly efficiently.