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I just come from a french LUG meeting, where I met a geograph who discovered OpenStreetMap "by my fault" ; he found the project wonderful when it deals with town centers and highly populated places, but told me that a region he appreciates of "Les Alpes" was not mapped and, for this reason, he was happy that no contributor has mapped it yet. The reason was "people do not make efforts anymore today, they have everything available on the internet about everything / everywhere". The fact that it is not mapped on OSM would probably force people to go out and enjoy the place without having the possibility to search on OSM / Google / Wikipedia / whatever and "get it" while still standing passively on their sofa... This reaction let me a bit puzzled. So, what do we have to do ? Do we have to keep some mysterious places unmapped ?

Anyway, town centers or not, "mysterious places" or not, it is always with pleasure and fun that i go out from my home with my GPS, trying to map a (very little) piece of my planet, to add datas into this wonderful project. Thanks again, and good night !

Posted by Johnny Carlsen on 15 January 2009 in English.

Da jeg alligevel er i Randers i forbindelse med mit arbejde, kunne jeg ligeså godt lave et par traces her.

Normalt tracer jeg med to forskellige GPS enheder på samme tid, både en Holux M241 og en TomTom One - men da jeg ikke har strøm til TomTom'en i firmabilen, er det idag kun optaget med Holux'en.

Jeg har ikke noteret nogle vejnavne eller lignende, det var der desværre ikke helt tid til. Jeg håber andre i området kan hjælpe med navnene.

Nu vil jeg se hvor langt jeg kan komme med at få tegnet vejene ind, jeg bliver nok ikke færdig idag.

Location: Linde, Randers, Randers Municipality, Central Denmark Region, Denmark
Posted by Tali'sman on 15 January 2009 in English.

I've been mapping around Ingleton and Bentham in North Yorkshire, and have come across a nice little conundrum.

Two rivers run into Ingleton form the North and the NorthEast. On the NPE, the northernmost one is Kingsdale Beck; the northeastern one is shown as the Greta. After they join, both are called the Greta - no problem.

I map the area, and plot the rivers, including, from my local knowledge and various local sources, the present names of the rivers - the northern one now known as the Twiss, and the northeastern one the Doe (also marked as such on the current OS); once again, after they join, both are called the Greta - no problem again. If I'd left it there, it would be done, finito. BUT...

I carry on digging into local sources, just getting caught up in the local history thing, and today I have found compelling evidence that the names are all mixed up! According to a local historian, John Bentley, who cites some impressive references, including the local angling clubs and narratives of ancient boundary marking, the northern river is the Doe, and also known as Kingsdale Beck when it is in that dale, and the northeastern is the Twiss - another compelling piece of 'evidence' being that this river (keep up now- currently known by most as the Doe)flows through an area having Twisleton Scars, Twisleton Dale House - well, you get the picture.

The problem now is: do I map it as it apparently should be, or do I help perpetuate the mistake which even 'knowledgable' locals have made?

Answers on a postcard...

Phil
Tali'sman

Location: Embsay with Eastby, Embsay, North Yorkshire, York and North Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom

hi,

today I published a new version of mappingquality.pl here: osm.wiki/User:Gary68

the program takes an osm file and gives you
- statistical data of "mappedness" (mapping quality) in HTML and CSV
- list of unmapped or sparsely mapped places TXT
- street directory for each place the program found (nodes and ways) CSV
- simple map that displays the area and lists key figures right where they come from.

for more details please follow the link osm.wiki/Mapping_Quality

the program uses two perl modules that are also published on my wiki page and may be of use for other projects as well.

ciao

gerhard
gary68

Posted by Rhineskater on 15 January 2009 in English.

Hallo,

ich habe eine Frage zu Sendmap: Wenn ich .img Kacheln mit Hilfe von Sendmap auf mein Garmin hochladen möchte,habe ich die Möglichkeit, einzelne Kacheln mittels Drag and Drop in das weisse Fenste von Sendmap zu ziehen und dann wie üblich hochzuladen.

Wie vermutlich bekannt ist, kann man auf der folgende Seite finden, welches Gegend welchen Kacheln enspricht.

http://ulrichkuester.de/OSM/CoordinateToOSMTile.html

Mit dem Tool von Ulrichkuester kann man ganze Regionen auswählen und bekommt dann u. U. 100te von Kacheln aufgezeigt. Da diese ja nicht unbedingt durchgehend sind, ist es sehr mühselig, die alle per drag and drop einzeln auszuwählen. Das geht doch sicherlich deutlich einfacher - aber wie.

Wenn ich z. B. 9 Kacheln für Deutschland auswähle, finde ich im Tool unten die Angabe:

sendmap20 -l 63273622.img 63273621.img 63273620.img 63273802.img 63273801.img 63273800.img 63273982.img 63273981.img 63273980.img

Gibt es eine Möglichkeit, in der man z. B. die Namen der 9 Kacheln mit copy und paste in senmap (also in einem Schritt ohne 9 mal drag und drop zu machen) einfügt, und dazu noch angibt, wo die Kacheln sich gerade auf der Festplatte befinden.

Hintergrund ist, daß ich mir für die Welt komplett die Kacheln runtergeladen habe und mir jetzt verschiedene Länder auf mein Garmin laden möchte (2 GB speicher). Da die komplette Welt fast 4 GB hat, muß ich ja eine Gewisse Auswahl treffen.

Danke für die Hilfe

Gruß Bernd

Posted by BeniH on 15 January 2009 in English.

Ich habe vor einiger Zeit einen (vermuteten) Importfehler im Nordwesten von Bad Tölz gesichtet und gehofft, der Importeur würde ihn reparieren. Als Hinweis habe ich die fraglichen Straßen als "todo=fixme" getaggt.

Da sie jetzt über zwei Monate nicht repariert wurden, habe ich sie nach dem Gedächtnis gefixt; die Wege gehören aber in jedem Fall nochmal geprüft, da die Streckenpositionen sicher nicht exakt sind.

Aus diesem Anlass gleich eine Frage:
wie taggt man solche Wege ("muss noch bestätigt werden", "fehlerhaft; muss gefixt werden") am besten? gibt es hier bereits einen "Standard"?

Location: Walgerfranz, Bad Tölz, Landkreis Bad Tölz-Wolfratshausen, Bavaria, 83646, Germany
Posted by acrosscanadatrails on 15 January 2009 in English.

Hi all,
I'm going through the super big list of many types of map features that may or may not get imported to OSM. ... some stuff might not be needed.
So im going through it all and adding in the OSM Tags that should be used IMO.

If you find anything that should be changed or better represented based on the description, for some of it that im not sure, i add a '???' to it. For some of it, i think i need to make a new page on the 'proposed map features list'

osm.wiki/CanVec:_Buildings_and_structures

For now i'm just working on the "Building and Structures" type of CanVec soup.

Cheers,
Sam Vekemans
Across Canada Trails