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Copied from my earlier changeset comment. changeset/159287397

Welcome to OpenStreetMapping.
Not sure what Go Map!! is showing, but adding bicycle=yes to roadways is redundant, as it is implied.
As far as I know, every _legal_ bicycle lane in the area has already been accurately mapped. For instance East Kalamazoo Street already had the tag cycleway=lane, meaning it has a legal (wide enough and painted and/or signed as such) lane on both sides.
Have a look at the Michigan Wiki for more information.
osm.wiki/Michigan

159287397

Yes bicycling is legal on most Michigan "sidewalks". Ours might be better tagged as highway=path + surface=concrete + width=1. Most Michigan mappers only add bicycle=yes where it is needed to route someone where the road network will not. Like, a cut through between two neighborhoods. Another reason I do not do add bicycle=yet to sidewalks, besides limiting routing confusion when it would appear to the router as bicycling paths on either side of the road, plus the road itself, then some roads will also have bicycle lanes on that road; I hear that high speed cycling on sidewalks is statistically more dangerous.

159287397

Welcome to OpenStreetMapping.
Not sure what Go Map!! is showing, but adding bicycle=yes to roadways is redundant, as it is implied.
As far as I know, every _legal_ bicycle lane in the area has already been accurately mapped. For instance East Kalamazoo Street already had the tag cycleway=lane, meaning it has a legal (wide enough and painted and/or signed as such) lane on both sides.
Have a look at the Michigan Wiki for more information.
osm.wiki/Michigan

139345117

Are you going to fix this? It keeps coming up. inaccurately, in searches.

140898363

Thank you for the edit. Good to know there is access to the park there

I have removed 'Clifford Park Enterance" from this path.
way/1205503169

A name should only be added when it has a sign, or another official source.
osm.wiki/Names#Names_are_not_for_descriptions

Also, highway=path implies motor_vehicle=no. In fact, it is about all it means.

137807555

Found this standing in a parking lot here now. Trying to map an EV charger. I'll delete the restaurant.

145312706

It shows the entire area the edit affected. Down below, it lists the objects. affected Could click through the ways to see which was mentioned.

Another option would be a tool that shows the edits graphically, like OsmCha.
https://osmcha.org/changesets/145312706?filters=%7B%22date__gte%22%3A%5B%7B%22label%22%3A%22%22%2C%22value%22%3A%22%22%7D%5D%2C%22ids%22%3A%5B%7B%22label%22%3A%22145312706%22%2C%22value%22%3A%22145312706%22%7D%5D%7D

By making smaller, more succinct edits, they would be easier to reference and discuss.

If I had to guess, I would suspect they mean this, after the entire length of the trail was also labeled as a ford.
way/1092786976/history

153245504

Another example further north where the road narrows.
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=317522311432738&focus=photo&lat=42.793766416798036&lng=-84.43586189243695&z=16.1250923421062&x=0.531016159249028&y=0.5949681622636045&zoom=0

153245504

I just drove through there and captured Mapillary imagery. Park Lake Road does not have bicycle lanes. Those are merely "fog lines". Inaccurately mapping it could get someone injured, with little recourse... as it is not a bicycle lane.
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=2141113966272148&focus=photo&lat=42.786646884107995&lng=-84.43308667631197&z=1.5

In Michigan, a legal bicycle lane must be:
- 3 foot wide, when the speed limit is under 45.
- 4 foot wide, when the speed limit is 45 or more.
- marked as a bicycle lane by signs, lane markings or both.

You could measure and the shoulder widths. Without a measurement, the shoulder tag implies a vehicle could safely pull of the road.
shoulder=*

153243828

This ( way/484642093 ) was accurately mapped as a multi-use path. Only bicycles are allowed on a cycleway. Cycleways are very rare in our parts. In fact, most of our multi-use paths require cyclists yield to those on foot. See the section for mapping pedestrian infrastructure on the Michigan Wiki page.
osm.wiki/Michigan

155942352

No apology needed. Only trying to help.

Actually. I did not look at this edit very close. I only looked for latest to not have the parking areas connected to the ways, after seeing a few others.

123441151

This edit is two years old, but just in case, I wanted to point out highway=cycleway effectively means bicycle=designated. Ways that only allow bicycles are very rare, at least in Michigan. Probably all of North America.
When it doubt for pedestrian ways, start with highway=path.
See the note on osm.wiki/Michigan#Pedestrian_ways

155942352

Thanks for all your work.

When adding parking, be sure to connect the parking to the road network leading to it. Pretty sure iD normally alerts on parking being disconnected from the ways.

For instance, here the driveway should run along the south side edge of the parking area, and the parking type would technically be street_side.
way/1312080632

Then here, the parking lane should intersect with the surface parking area.
way/1312080630

parking=*

152005228

Unless there really are signs that can be mapped, I have not found a mapping scheme currently developed for mapping MTB obstacles/elements.

149094284

My wife and I were in the area and stopped by. I am uploading Mapillary imagery that which shows there is only a small sign at the entrance of "The Dump" trail.

The County's map shows the trail is within Stuart's Landing Park.
https://arcg.is/184HyW

Property map shows it is sevaral parcels belonging to the City of Marshall.
http://link.fetchgis.com/61b507bf

The "The Dump" park should be removed. The real park should be expanded to match its full boundaries. A MTB trail relation should be created. The trail's name should be on its relation, not its segments. The sign could be mapped as its trailhead. Once the Mapillary imagery has processed, the photos could be used for adding details.

149094284

The park, trail, or both?

152005228

tourism=information + information=route_marker

Is there really a sign with that name there?

152005228

tourism=attraction

152005228

Tourist attractions? 🤔

node/11766261580
node/11943008980
node/11758712561

151365161

Nice! Not only does that solve the access tag overload problem, but also avoids the canoe/kayak/sup/paddlecraft/etc nomenclature debate.

I waited until it was clear on the Wiki, despite OsmAnd's excellent support for the whitewater community's narrowly focused tags, that canoe was thee generic term for paddlecraft and canoe=put_in;egress was how transitions between water and land were to be tagged. Then, in a frenzy of stolen time, created the OpenStreetBrowser paddling categories [1], converted Michigan whitewater tags to canoe, and added a note to the Michigan wiki's cheat sheet to help encourage consistency.

Since the creation of the categories, I have seen many new route=canoe appearing in the U.S.. Not sure about canoe=put_in/egress.

So… Is it time to add support for waterway=access_point to OpenStreetBrowser? Maybe make it function the same as canoe=put_in/egress. Leaving support for canoe=put_in/egress for a time.

Any thoughts on tagging portages? Right now, the "Paddling Amenity" category highlights ways tagged canoe=portage.

[1]
* https://github.com/plepe/openstreetbrowser-categories-main/blob/master/paddling_amenities.yaml
* https://github.com/plepe/openstreetbrowser-categories-main/blob/master/paddling_hazards.yaml
* https://github.com/plepe/openstreetbrowser-categories-main/blob/master/paddling_routes.yaml