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129497632

I started a project page for The Iron Belle.
osm.wiki/.../Michigan/Iron_Belle_Trail

140512843

It looks like CyclOSM and Open Cycle Map render that proposed section well enough. Though, without looking closely at the map key, folks may think that trail really exists. Personally, I am in the "only map reality" camp. Maybe, the suggestion on the "proposed" key's wiki page to use "proposed: route=bicycle" would work better, as "this makes it clearer to database users that this route is not yet in existence."
proposed=*
That page also states, "
You are also encouraged to add the source for the plan with source=*. Please take care about copyright issues and don't copy from plans you're not entitled to do so.

Objects without clear evidence that there is some real active plan to construct it should be removed from data.
"

And, I doubt that is a true "cycleway". The only cycleway I know of in Michigan is a half mile long section on MSU's campus. Have a look at multi-use paths on the Michigan Wiki.
osm.wiki/Michigan#Pedestrian_ways
In fact, many of our paths are signed for wheeled users to yield to foot traffic. Which would more accurately be highway=footway + bicycle=yes + segregated=no or highway=path + foot=designated + bicycle=yes + segregated=no
However, ignoring those signs, most have been mapped as highway=path + foot=designated + bicycle=designated + segregated=no

134000705

"MTB Jump", is that really the name on all those? Do they have signs listing their names? And are they really tourist attractions?
osm.wiki/Good_practice

At the moment, there are not community supported tags for tagging mountain bike trail features, only the trail's way can be mapped with current tags.
osm.wiki/Mountain_biking

In summary, the trail is tourist attraction enough, only things with official name names should be named in OSM, not named just so they get rendered.

140079505

Sorry, I've been busy.

Many of the highway classifications are a routing hierarchy. They say little about type of road and more about the road's importance in the network. (I see the Michigan wiki page could use some clarification on this topic.)
motorway > trunk > primary > secondary > tertiary

I labeled only the section right off from the freeway as "primary", which anything off from a freeway could easily be.

You are welcome to change it.

We could also discuss it with others at the next monthly meeting.

I also have my eye on the road through Island Lake State Recreation area. The National Park Service says if it were in their parks, it would be a tertiary or secondary.
osm.wiki/US_National_Park_Service_Tagging:_Roads#Type_of_Road

140079505

Yes. As it is right off the freeway, it is definitely a "primary" road in OpenStreetMap parlance.

With the Great-Lake-to-Lake trail now routed through there, I wanted to ensure that section was accurately mapped.

In fact, Witmore Lake Road should probably also be "secondary".

139847915

This is a multi-use Path, not a cycleway. There are even signs posted instructing cyclists to yield to pedestrians (see Mapillary imagery).
osm.wiki/Michigan

There was already a route relation for the Lakelands trail.
relation/272564

The various names of this trail are on its various route relations. The ways do not need their own names.

The railway is long past abandoned (see Mapillary imagery). Nearly all of it has become something else, like a multi-use path.

20007464

Would Zingerman's be better represented as a point?

139230690

I did. Thanks.

137812548

Thank you, emersonveenstra, for your vigilance and hard work.
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100778193

Just saw the RAMBA super relation. I understand how a relation of the club's trails would be helpful, but it doesn't feel like mapping "what's on the ground". I bet a company like McDonalds would love a relation that included all of their locations. "Relations are used to model logical (and usually local) or geographic relationships between objects. They are not designed to hold loosely associated but widely spread items."
osm.wiki/Relation

I wonder if would be possible to achieve a similar affect with a tag like "operator"? Not sure if there is a "maintainer", "custodian", or "steward" tag. Maybe it's time there is.
operator=*

138169375

Fixed.

124249918

May want to add access=private when adding private pools. I've fixed a few near my neighborhood, as I'm thinking about using OpenStreetBrowser to highlight our neighborhood's amenities.
https://openstreetbrowser.org/#map=18/42.68237/-84.62327&categories=leisure,gastro,shop,sport%5B%5D,mtb-routes,paddling_amenities,religion

100300564

Seeing this rendered at GeoCaching.com, I came here thinking this was still tagged as a park. With all the construction, and future construction, is this still natural=grassland ?

134558091

Corrected those. Wish I knew where I copied that from, before using it on some of last night's "both_ways" edits, but not all. It will catch someone else out.

134424153

Yes it was. Thanks.

134044562

Thanks.
changeset/134081966

131289785

The Michigan Wiki page has a cheat sheet on tagging common things in our area.
osm.wiki/Michigan#Water

I'll admit "canoe" is overloaded, in many ways, but it works. It is an old tag. Around long before the confusion the whitewater group caused by creating an expansive, yet narrowly named scheme. It probably would have went unnoticed, but they got support added in many renders. The route=canoe page explains it better. "Signed route for canoeists, kayakers and other paddlers. In OSM canoe=* is the general term for all these paddlers"

I have asked if there is any reason not to create the separate pages for canoe=portage and canoe=put_in.
osm.wiki/Talk:Key:canoe

Because of OsmAnd's really nice support for the whitewater scheme, I even started tagging to the renderer. Always intending to switch the moment I found leaned a more generic paddle-craft term had been chosen. I have since cleaned up these tags…

Asked OsmAnd to add support for canoe…
https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues/16105

And added Paddling categories to OpenStreetBrowser.
https://openstreetbrowser.org/#map=17/42.71836/-84.56041&categories=paddling_amenities,paddling_hazards,paddling_routes

134004283

Fixed. Thank you.
changeset/134044562

Say, I can't recall if you have attended a meetup or not. Michigan mappers have been meeting up monthly for a few years now. The meeting information can be found on the Michigan Wiki.
osm.wiki/Michigan#Community

131289785

It depends on if folks should expect to be able to back a trailer in to launch their boat.

What I see, and remember, is this was designed as a canoe launch. Having a log breaker wall, that has since formed a sand bar nearly, but not completely, as high as the wall. So it does look like a ramp. Though, it is just soft shifting sand on the other side of the log breaker.
https://mapillary.com/map/im/477348520161604

I would not back a boat trailer in there. If you would, change it back to a slipway. However, I would make a note of the less than ideal conditions in the description and/or other attribute tags.

131289960

The last time I was at Stephan Landing, very few would expect to be able to back a trailer in to launch their bass boat or even a row boat.

I thought I had taken a Mapillary photos at this launch, but I am not finding them now.

Unfortunately, canoe=put_in is not currently rendered by most renderers. It is however rendered by OpenStreetBrowser ( https://openstreetbrowser.org/#map=17/44.67917/-84.57315&categories=paddling_amenities,paddling_hazards,paddling_routes ) and there is an open issue asking OsmAnd to support them ( https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues/16105 ).