Hi! I've seen it, unfortunately there is no Mapillary images from the opposite direction to confirm it, but I assume that it's also 20km/h so I mapped it a such couple weeks ago. It starts at sing position and ends at junction. If it hasn't shown up yet, in the application you are using, then you have to wait for data update on their end.

Hi pavel,

You are right, the notes function is there for this reason. Someone can put down a note with information about OSM data (if something is not correct or outdated), and then other mappers or community can fix the data. However, oftentimes it can take long time for someone to read and act on the note, and it also depends how detailed and clear note is, whether it is actionable remotely or not.

Best thing is to update data yourself if you are familiar with the area. That brings me to the point where you said that you won't make edits on OSM yourself anymore. That is sad to hear, and my intention was not to discourage you from editing on OSM but rather point out some mistakes you made, so you fix that and contribute more accurate data. After all this is community project and the more of us contribute to it the better and thus more up to date data and map will be.

As you probably saw, even in my initial comment on one of your changesets I was just trying to bring it to you that some edits you did regarding maxspeeds weren't correct and what shouldn't be done.

We've all been there when we started with OSM, it can be overwhelming at moments but as it is community project it is important for us to be on the same page and work together and improve the data.

It would be nice if you don't give up on OSM completely but rather learn from mistakes and if you feel like it, reach out if you need help. So, I will repeat what I have wrote in first comment, if you need help with something feel free to reach out to someone or to community, you can get more information or ask questions on general forum or in more specific section of Serbia category https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/rs/64

or reach to the Serbian community on Telegram https://t.me/osm_sr

Best regards

I have fully reverted maxspeed changes in this changeset: :178094425

Yes, there is 20 km/h sign. However, it doesn't span across whole school zone, there is no additional sign that would state that, and by traffic rules it ends at junction shortly after it. I have already mapped maxspeeds on this road segment based on latest Mapillary images.

Please be more careful when editing maxspeeds on OSM, this is not first time that I have to revert your changes.

Best regards

On OSM we are mapping maxspeed on the road only if there is explicit sign with maxspeed value present nex tot he road or if is default speed limit proclaimed by law. Any other maxspeed that is not based on that shouldn't be added. Are there any more roads in Serbia where you have added maxspeed values that wasn't based based on sign? If so, could you please review those and remove maxspeed from those ways?

Hi, based on what did you add maxspeed on this service road? Is there a traffic sign on the ground that is explicitly stating maxspeed=20?

This has been fully reverted in changeset: 177219666

Considering this is 3rd or even 4th time that I'm reverting the exact same changes you are making to maxspeed values around Zlatibor, I would advise you to stop editing maxspeeds further until you familiarize yourself a bit more how OSM works and how to properly tag these.

Because from your changeset comments it seems to me that you don't understand how OSM work and continue to make changes on OSM simply because certain application, device or car navigation is not properly consuming data from OSM. We are mapping the correct information that is present on the ground, not imaginary stuff and we certainly do not tailor it to specific app needs, so please stop with your current practices.

If you need help or some more explanation about how to map something in correct way, you can always ask around but simply insisting on certain changes, which are by the way not correct and are degrading OSM data, will yield no result.

In case you continue with current mapping practices and ignore comments from the community that were left on your changesets I will be forced to escalate this to DWG.

Happy mapping

This has been fully reverted in this changeset: 177219418

This has been fully reverted in this changeset: 177219418

Is this based on traffic signs alongside these roads or just your guess?

I passed next to this road way/136327334 and looking from the main road I haven't seen any speed limit sign. Could you provide photo of 30 km/h sign?

This changeset has been partially reverted in changeset: 177196085

This changeset has been partially reverted in changeset: 177195807

This changeset has been fully reverted in changeset: 177195606

Zdravo, opet si unio pogršeno ograničenja brzina. Da se ne bih ponavljao pročitaj komentare koje sam ostavio prije četiri mjeseca na jednom od tvojih changeseta: changeset/171721425

Molim te da mi detaljno objasniš razlog za promjene na sledećim putevima gdje si dodao maxspeed iako je već postojao maxspeed:forward i maxspeed:backward kao i lokacije znakova koji regulišu ograničenje brzine:

way/1332812023
way/530510938
way/1332812031
way/530510939
way/1153439673
way/303052615
way/303052596

This changeset has been almost completely reverted in following changesets:

changeset/176615982 - Inappropriate changes to road classification.

changeset/176616246 - Invalid geometry changes made to building polygon and roads

Fully reverted accidental edits in this changeset: 175547109

Zdravo, da li možeš da nam objasniš zbog čega konstantno mijenjaš klasifikaciju određenim putevima? Pretpostavljam da imaš lokalno znanje te regije ali ovo što radiš nije baš pravilno. Takođe ovo je već deseti put da si promjenio klasifikaciju grupi puteva, čini mi se da se vrtimo u krug.

Već si dobio poruku od DWG prilikom prošlog priiavljivanja gdje si zamoljen da odgovoriš na poruke mapera, što nisi učinio, vjerovatno će sledeći put biti strožiji. Da bismo to spriječili potrebno je izdvojiš vrijeme i odgovoriš na poruke ostavljene na changeset komentarima.

Sve poruke možeš da pročitaš ovdje: https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=22674692

Poruku koja ti je ostavljena od strane DWG možeš da pročitaš ovdje: osm.org/user_blocks/18771

Pozdrav

Zdravo Pavel, hvala na odgvoru i ne brini, ispravićemo sve što treba.

Nekada ograničenja brzina mogu imati iste vrijednosti u oba smjera, međutim često to i nije slučaj, pa zbog toga treba biti pažljiv prilikom dodavanja ili mijenjanja istih.

Ova dva znaka što si mi poslao, ja ne vidim bilo šta problematično u OSM podacima na toj dionici puta. Tako je već i bilo uneseno pre tvojih poslednjih izmena? Od ovog znaka 50 node/289870181 , tačnije od kružnog toka, pa sve do ovog znaka 60 node/12489342762 stoji maxspeed:backward=50 na svakom segmentu puta, zar ne?

Uglavnom, provjeriću kasnije sve ove promjene što si napravio na Zlatiboru, a tiču se ograničenja brzina, koristeći najnovije dostupne snimke na Mapillary platformi, i vratiti maxspeed vrijednosti na prethodno stanje ako bude potrebno.

Ukoliko imaš još nekih pitanja ili nejasnoća u vezi mapiranja u Srbiji, možeš da nam se pridružiš na zvaničnom forumu u Srbija kategoriji (https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/rs/64) ili na telegram kanalu (https://t.me/osm_sr).

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Zdravo, molim te da obratiš pažnju kada dodaješ ograničenja brzine na puteve, dodaješ vrijednosti na mjestima gdje već postoje unijeta ograničenja (obrati pažnju na tagove maxspeed:forward i maxspeed:backward).

Ovo kako trenutno radiš je potpuno pogrešno, jer stavljaš maxspeed tag na segmente gdje su već dodati maxspeed:forward i maxspeed:backward.

Da ne dužim, molim te da mi objasniš na ovom kratkom segmentu way/303052588, zbog čega si stavio ovdje maxspeed=50 (što po tvojoj izmjeni znači da u oba smjera kretanja važi ograničenje 50) kada imamo jasan znak https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=43.72673901666701&lng=19.707311300000015&z=17&dateFrom=2025-01-01&pKey=1514917749891988&focus=photo&x=0.022516483804687237&y=0.6024108614385757&zoom=0
da pred kružnim tokom važi ograničenje 40, a malo dalje postoji i znak 30, konkretno ovdje way/159164784

Ukoliko je došlo do neke promjene na terenu, bilo bi dobro da obrazložiš u suprotnom ću tvoje poslednje izmjene morati da revertujem.

Srdačan pozdrav

Hi Mohammad Amirabdollahi,

You have edited this way way/1337654839 and boundary relation relation/6557987 which creates overlapping/intersecting issues.

Could you please check this out and fix it, or should this be reverted to previous state?

Zdravo, molim te nemoj da mijenjaš klasifikaciju puteva ako nisi upoznat sa detaljima. Stavio si potpuno pogrešnu klasifikaciju za nekoliko puteva, a to je trunk_link. Vratio sam ih u prvobitno stanje, to jest u highway=track.

Ukoliko imaš nekih pitanja ili ti treba pomoć u mapiranju, možeš da kontaktiraš nekog iz OSM Srbija zajednice ili nam se obratiš na OSM forumu.

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