@SomeoneElse - that is interesting about iD (I don’t use it often). In JOSM if you click the bus icon on the toolbar you only see “Stop Position”, “Platform”, and “Stop Area” options, so right from the start you have to figure out the differences between these three things and wonder on which of them you should put information such as network or operator. In the menus there is a separate “Public Transport (Legacy)” submenu for highway=bus_stop, which again seems to discourage actually using this option.

Does iD provide an option to add route information in some way? I think it may be at the stage of wanting to tie stops to routes that things get tricky for some people. I now think that highway=bus_stop nodes can be added to route relations, but at one stage I had the impression that I would have to use platforms and stop positions for this.

I agree that the wiki should be treated with a degree of caution, but it takes time to develop the confidence and knowledge to do this, and I suspect it is also more difficult to judge how far a given page may be prescriptive v descriptive if you are reading it in something other than your first language.

I would also support a simple approach. The full “version 2” approach may work in places where there are lots of active mappers with an interest in public transport, but in many countries the priority should simply be to get bus stops mapped in the first place.

The comment by @SomeoneElse about the UK is interesting. I would guess that this situation is fairly self-sustaining - if a new mapper in the UK sees a consistent and simple approach already working in their area, they may well simply follow that without worrying too much about what the Wiki says. Then they see that their work gets rendered as expected, so they continue on those lines.

The problem seems to arise in countries that have got stuck somewhere between highway=bus_stop and a more complex “version 2” approach. Here a new mapper finds a confusing mix of approaches, turns to the wiki for help, and gets the impression that a simple “highway=bus_stop” is some kind of historical relic that should be avoided. (You would never guess from the wiki that a highly populated country such as the UK apparently still gets by using mainly this simple approach). So our new mapper tries to map platforms, stop positions, and stop areas, sometimes fighting with the limitations of their chosen editor to do so. Then they find that most of this work doesn’t get rendered in the standard map or the Transport Map layer, give up and go map something easier.

So I would love to see something simpler and more new-mapper-friendly. I am not clear if a new tagging approach is actually what is needed, or are the existing problems more with the combination of Wiki documentation / editor support / renderer support, rather than with the tags themselves?

Great news, I already used Waymarked Trails frequently to research hiking routes and this makes it even better. It is especially satisfying to see trails I haved added to OSM myself displayed so nicely. Well done to all involved and keep up the good work.

Para mi también ha sido inesperado. Al principio me uní a OSM pensando en el senderismo en zonas rurales - soy usuario desde años del app OruxMaps con los mapas OpenAndroMaps (basados en OSM), y se me ocurrió tratar de mejorar los mapas. En ese momento no pensé mucho en el mapa de la ciudad. Pero al ver el trabajo que dcapillae ya había empezado en la ciudad, me animé a hacer mi pequeña contribución. Una vez corregidas las calles y trazados los edificios resultó mucho más fácil aprovechar de mis paseos con el perro para añadir POIs. Imagino que el pobre perro se está preguntando porque andamos cada vez más lejos!

Por mi parte espero seguir mapeando los edificios en las laderas de los montes Gibralfaro y Victoria, y luego seguir hacia el este - El Limonar etc. para llegar un dia a El Palo donde ya hay muchos edificios dibujados.

Me parece que donde más nos falta ayuda es la zona oeste de la ciudad. En Puerto de la Torre y unas partes de Carretera de Cádiz hay pocos detalles de edificios, ni siquiera landuse=residential en algunas zonas, probablemente construidas en los últimos años.