This changeset has been reverted by lostmike in c/s #97603780: reason - mapping of fantasy objects/vandalism

Hi,

Many thanks for taking the trouble to correct details in this area.

For permissive paths you can make the details more precise by adding foot=permissive (and bicycle & horse if that is appropriate), rather than just using a label. This information can be directly used by apps. You can just set access=permissive, but this notionally would apply to all viable transport forms so is not recommended.

In general if a path exists on the ground, but is not publicly accessible we general recommend leaving it but changing the access status to private. This is because the path is likely to be added again if it is visible in aerial imagery or someone passing through sees it. The downside is that not every app using OpenStreetMap data respects this information.

For roads, driveways & tracks accessing properties probably the best access choice is destination. A number of delivery firms (notably Amazon Logistics) now use OSM for planning & routing delivery drivers.

I hope this is of some use.

Regards,

Jerry aka SK53

PS. I'm intrigued that there is a building marked "Filter House" by New Hall. Does this belong to the water company?

Knepp is a very famous re-wilding experiment run by Isabella Tree & her husband Sir Charles Burrell. She has written a book about it. I doubt if, as yet, we have established tags enabling the mapping of such a thing: a description or note tag would indeed be useful for those unfamiliar with Knepp.

It's a long time ago, but can you remember why the footpath to the bridge on Heol Pensonby is tagged as accessible to motor vehicles? This doesnt seem very logical & one of the Mapbox mappers encountered this from a driver report note/2486249. Geograph describes it as a cyclist/walker underpass (https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3812911)

Jerry

Despite what the Name Suggestion Index says & indeed the corporate website, many Harvesters are food-led pubs rather than restaurants. If a pub tag has been there for a long time it suggests that this is a consensus decision. For instance The Royal in Hanwell was always felt distinctly a pub (it was local to offices I worked from), and many family members retreated from The Derby Pool (Wallasey) because it was too noisy: i.e., pub-like rather than restaurant like. Yes, it's marginal, but I think it's best practice when doing updates like this to not change the judgement of local mappers.

Hi,
As user_5121 says this edit moved a few nodes of Hatfield Road, but also extends to a corner of Luzon Island in the Philippines. We've had to change things back to what they were. No problem with that, everyone takes time to get to grip with editing.

I wondered however if you live close to St Albans along the Hatfield Road? The reason is that it's possible that you accidentally clicked a button which move the edit window to your current location. I'd be interested to know because this may be a behaviour that the editor should warn about if the distance is long.

Best wishes,

Jerry

Thanks, was just about to do that myself

The Furness Road Allotment site still looks pretty " allotmenty" on the latest Bing imagery

You were right it must be a StreetComplete thing. I used a rather too large bbox & found a couple of hundred round London & adjacent areas. I've added the 30 mph to them, will follow up with StreetComplete shortly.

J

Any chance of checking the speed limit on Cleveland St, South of Maple Street. In April 2014 this was 20 mph. (Just going through some StreetComplete speed limits which have just added maxspeed:type & not maxspeed & realised I had photos of the area).

Hi Thomas,

I've been adding 30 mph to those marked as nsl:GB_restricted, so its only those with single which matter. I may do all of these in one go today. In some countries I think they just put national urban speedlimit without an explicit value, but consensus in UK was to be explicit with maxspeed:type to privide further info. StreetComplete's main developer is German so some of this may have been lost in original discussions with them over UK speed.limits. In general they are extremely conscientious, taking great care over tag values for quests (there's an arcane thread on the forum about cobbles & setts).

You'll notice me making a few other minor changes around Ruislip as I hunt for rooftop solar panels. For instance I'm adding footway = sidewalk to pavements and splitting these at crossings where the footway tag changes to "crossing". Also a bit of road realignment based on modern imagery & OSGB open data.

Best wushes,

Jerry

Hi,

Very belated query, but you seem to have added maxspeed:type=GB:nsl_single on all of these roads. I dont suppose for a minute that these have 60 mph limits, so I assume you meant nsl_restricted for 30 mph. I can fix thisnif you confirm that is the case.

Regards,

Jerry aka SK53

This changeset was reverted by woodpeck at 08:43 UTC in changeset changeset/95702383

Dear TL5100,

You have only made a small number of edits but a surprising large proportion have been seriously problematic.

This is one step beyond: deleting a prominent London building from a database used by millions of people is vandalistic behaviour.

Please desist from this type of edit in the future. The data when changed is immediately available to everyone: you are not manipulating a private copy.

Yours,

SK53

The area was clearly farmland back in October 2018 when I was there (and made a few edits). It's a fairly popular tourist site, but much of the tourism is promoted by Battlefield Farm (which AFAIK farms all the land). There's more tourist infrastructure at the farm site (cafe, shops). The paths largely follow field edges so they have relatively low impact on farming activity.

I think the cut-off was around 1 MW. There are quite a lot of other installations in repd but Jez wasnt interested in them initially. At some stage we'll probably start going through them. As a consequence this cut-off is also pretty much the effective limit for power=plant. Also not every one appears in the REPD database: there are quite a few on United Utilities land (& water) which apparently dont appear in the database.

Details are at osm.wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_United_Kingdom#List_of_just_constructed_and_operational_UK_Ground_Mounted_Solar_Farms (which suggests there may be some ones which were under construction which are now completed.

Hi,

There was an error in my mapping, but your edits compounded it. In fact the highway=residential should have been landuse=residential. A good clue was that as a road it did not correspond to any aerial imagery. I've now corrected it & removed the road added to fix the non-existent island.

Jerry

Josm doesnt have great support for full range of solar tags, but there are plenty of examples about to copy from. I've added the typical tags. In general we use generator as you have in this case for these smaller solar farms, although there is an increasing tendency to map the inividual arrays of panels (extrude makes this very easy) and rely on geographical proximity for clustering. Usually they are fenced so its useful to add if there is one. Larger solar farms are all now mapped as power=plant which allows groups of panels to be mapped as generators as well.

Hi,

Did you parse the inscription on the plaque? Road distances in Britain are not measured in kilometres (other than safety markers on motorways), and the plaque is unnamed. In practice the site of the final Eleanor's Cross is more significant (as it was this which formed the basis for milestones).

Not Brockenhurst, but New Milton