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148136531

Hello, I noticed that you have changed some controversial administrative relationships in 148136531, ~6722, ~6944, ~7209 changeset.

According to de-facto, administrative districts should be attributed according to actual control. You can add dispute-related content, which is reflective of reality; but a district without actual control should not be added to the relationship. Also, when adding dispute content, I think you can just add relevant tags to the existing relation like 6753150 instead of creating some another duplicate relations.

I would like to restore these changesets but keep these "dispute" related content. You are welcome to discuss this in changeset/148153365.

Best wishes

148153365

我们不反对添加dispute相关内容,但是更应该添加在已有的relation/6753150中而不是新建一个关系,稍早前因为现实忙碌我尚未进一步变更相关内容或者评论,只做了退回处理,现在我才有时间进行更细一步的变更。对此我表示道歉。

你还应该注意到,此几个编辑中希望将部分没有实控的区域加入某个关系,这是不符合de-facto的。

我将会在先前的变更集留言。

I am not against adding dispute related content, but it would be more appropriate to add it to an existing relation/6753150 rather than creating a new one. I have not yet made any further changes to the content or comments due to the reality of my busy schedule and have only returned them, but I have now had time to make a more detailed change. I am sorry for this.

You should also note that a couple of these changesets want to add the area, which is not realistically controlled, to a relationship. It does not follow the de-facto.

I will leave a message in the relevant changeset.

148086575

115608960

这应该是登山爱好者绘制的,如果您认为应当删除,那尽情去删。

111486876

Will DWG never give any response?Have DWG finished the "investigation"? I feel extremely sad to
the members of DWG.😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
DWG的同志们是不是不再关注这个地方了?是不是不再回复广大编辑者所关注的问题了?DWG的“调查”还要持续多久啊?我们对DWG很是失望啊。是不是DWG已经没有人了???😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

110044665

😅 One year...

123727406

另外中国还在中沙群岛设立了自然保护区,见 https://www.mee.gov.cn/ywgz/zrstbh/zrbhdjg/201309/t20130926_260911.shtml 里的第49项

123727406

而且不仅是越南,菲律宾也没有声索中沙群岛(见马尼拉公报这篇报道的存档: https://archive.ph/20130113105304/http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/365375/saan-siya#selection-957.0-957.81

123727406

可是你给的例子是西沙群岛和南沙群岛(越南称“黄沙群岛”和“长沙群岛”),与中沙群岛没关系,而且越南方面不声索中沙群岛。

123727406

中沙群岛这个概念在中国百姓或政府的眼中就是中沙大环礁海域(包括整个浅滩,英文称“Macclesfield Bank”)还有其他一些如黄岩岛的零散的岛礁。其次你应该注意到“中沙群岛的岛礁及其海域 (#6753119)”这个关系了吧,这是一个真实被中国确立的行政单位(详见中国国家统计局: http://www.stats.gov.cn/tjsj/tjbz/tjyqhdmhcxhfdm/2013/46/4603.html ,中国行政区划代码为460323000000),其名称就是直接复制到OSM中的,这个行政区划的名称中“及其海域”直接就说明了整个区域都在这个行政区划内,这条线初衷就是用来表示它,本来这条线应该向外拓展,现状已经缩小到不能再小了。另外关于实际控制的情况,我们已知是外来船只是不可以靠近的,否则会被海警船驱赶;船只不可能将整个海域填满,那又是不现实的,所以这个实控是比较明显的。当然,有的国家基于其自身的利益倾向当然不愿意承认这些,不过这已经不在OSM讨论范围内了。

123727406

Desu,您为什么总是强调所谓“前述证据”呢?它不是争议中任意一方的观点。您又为什么会认为不是实际控制呢?中国各种船只在此地长期坐滩不移动,并且阻止其他国家的船只接近应该是很好的证明了。另外,中国早已声明“中国对南海诸岛,包括东沙群岛、西沙群岛、中沙群岛和南沙群岛拥有主权”(见https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/nanhai/chn/snhwtlcwj/201607/t20160712_8521049.htm

121598059

And I think, if there's no sorce showing the English name, you needn't use Internet translator to translate, which may make jokes. Especially for Tibet names, you should know the Tibet orignal name and use the translator.

121598059

Oh well, in Japanese "湾" is also "wan". You fully use the translator from Jpn. to Eng. lol

121598059

The name of node "天神湾" (#9271435181) seemed wrong. It's obversly not a Tibetan name but a Chinese orignal name. "Tenjin" is the pronunciation of "天神" in Japanese. In Chinese, it's "Tianshen". But "湾", or “Wan” is correct. I'm so interested in the translator you used. xD

123110017

完全空白地区从零开始画山路的话可以试试RapiD~

121537157

有来源吗

119645247

According to De-fcto, the area is under Chinese contro, so it's suitable to use Chinese in its name just like the names of other islets under Vietnamese or Philippine contro are in their languages.

116466161

您好,想请求“重庆地名库信息服务”的具体链接或服务程序,望告知,谢谢。

116642527

Thanks for your reply. I will mind it!

116642527

Hi, the changset 116323434 wrongly changed the coastline and I'd like to restore it. If I do so, it may make mistakes on futures in this changest. Please note it, thanks.