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Hi Korgi1, this changeset add boundary=protected_area to a building. While the other tags seem normal, adding boundary=protected_area to buildings isn't something I've encountered before. Can you provide a reference as to why you are adding that boundary tag? boundary=protected_area doesn't mention any use on buildings or other objects. A built itself isn't really a boundary, though I appreciate that the building itself is protected.

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Hi Himké, let us us know if you have any questions on the 2021 US Highway Classification project. The OSM-US Slack is where most of the discussion is happening, but many of us also subscribe to the [talk-us] mailing list. :-)

115398558

Additional note: See osm.wiki/Proposal:_New_York/Highway_Classification for the new NY guidelines and osm.wiki/United_States/2021_Highway_Classification_Guidance for the overall project.

115398019

Additional note: See osm.wiki/Proposal:_New_York/Highway_Classification for the new NY guidelines and osm.wiki/United_States/2021_Highway_Classification_Guidance for the overall project.

114507515

See the comments on your other changeset at changeset/114507228. The NY DOT has given this section of roadway ACC=3 (which makes it highway=primary) because it just provides a local/suburban connection rather through connectivity to other major cities.
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Additional note: See osm.wiki/Proposal:_New_York/Highway_Classification for the new NY guidelines and osm.wiki/United_States/2021_Highway_Classification_Guidance for the overall project.

114833060

See the comments on your other changeset at changeset/114507228. The NY DOT has given this section of roadway ACC=3 (which makes it highway=primary) because it just provides a local connection to downtown Albany and not through connectivity to other cities.

114864287

See the comments on your other changeset at changeset/114507228. The NY DOT has given this section of roadway ACC=3 (which makes it highway=primary) because it just provides a local connection to downtown Albany and not through connectivity to other cities.

114983290

Hi Himké, For NY highway classifications, we're now using the state's Arterial Classification Code (ACC) to determine which highway=* value to use. The State DOT developed the ACC to inform routing importance (rather than physical structure of a road), which maps directly to the new process for categorizing highways that we're moving to in the US. highway=trunk no longer means "expressway" but rather now is being used for the the most important long-distance routes so that US mapping practice matches how highway=trunk is used in the rest of the world.

The NY DOT has determined that this section of the Lake Ontario State Parkway has ACC=3 due to it being a local connector rather than a long-distance regional connector. This maps to highway=primary+expressway=yes in OSM.

See osm.wiki/Proposal:_New_York/Highway_Classification for the new NY guidelines and osm.wiki/United_States/2021_Highway_Classification_Guidance for the overall project.

A large community of mappers are working on highway classification and discussing in the OSMUS Slack's #local-newyorkstate and #highway-classification channels: https://osmus-slack.herokuapp.com/ . It would be great for you to join us to discuss there before undoing these changes.

114507228

Hi Himké, For NY highway classifications, we're now using the state's Arterial Classification Code (ACC) to determine which highway=* value to use. The State DOT developed the ACC to inform routing importance (rather than physical structure of a road), which maps directly to the new process for categorizing highways that we're moving to in the US. highway=trunk no longer means "expressway" but rather now is being used for the the most important long-distance routes so that US mapping practice matches how highway=trunk is used in the rest of the world.

The NY DOT has determined that this section of the LaSalle Expressway has ACC=3 due to it being a local connector rather than a regional connector. This maps to highway=primary+expressway=yes in OSM.

See osm.wiki/Proposal:_New_York/Highway_Classification for the new NY guidelines and osm.wiki/United_States/2021_Highway_Classification_Guidance for the overall project.

A large community of mappers are working on highway classification and discussing in the OSMUS Slack's #local-newyorkstate and #highway-classification channels: https://osmus-slack.herokuapp.com/ . It would be great for you to join us to discuss there before undoing these changes.

113535420

An additional note that I just remembered: in the New York-specific guidance, the Niagra Scenic Parkway (957A) is specifically called out as a candidate for highway=primary+expressway=yes. osm.wiki/Proposal:_New_York/Highway_Classification#3._highway.3Dprimary

113535420

Hi andrepoly, thanks for asking! The short answer is that the New York DOT gives the northern part of the Niagra Scenic Parkway an Arterial Classification Code (ACC) of 3, which has been determined by other mappers in New York to correspond to `highway=primary`. Even though this road is of a grade-separated construction it has a low speed limit and doesn't serve as a connection to large regional cities like most of the motorway network.

Here is info on the update US Highway classification guidance:
osm.wiki/United_States/2021_Highway_Classification_Guidance
and here are the New York-specific guidelines developed and discussed by other New York-based mappers which draw on the DOT's ACC classification for top-level highway classification.: osm.wiki/Proposal:_New_York/Highway_Classification

I've gotten a lot of feedback on this project by mappers in the OSMUS Slack's #local-newyorkstate channel: https://osmus.slack.com/archives/CJ4QKU40H/p1636421497086700

As I worked through reclassify the top-levels of highways in upstate New York I've been compiling a list exceptions, and places where the ACC values given by the DOT don't necessarily make sense to me:
osm.wiki/New_York/Highway_Classification/2021_Classification_Project
A portion of the Niagra Scenic Parkway south of I-190 and the Rainbow bridge has an ACC=2 which would likely make it `highway=trunk`+`https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:expressway=yes`, but it then seems to peter out into a network of ACC=4/5 city streets at its southern end rather than obviously serving a top-level connection in the road network. It you have local knowledge of this roadway, feedback would be very welcome!

113001347

Ha ha! You beat me too it -- I was going to reach out in the OSMUS #local-newyorkstate for local guidance after finishing more of the secondary->primary upgrades in this area.

Here's a screen-shot of the ACC classifications from NewYorkState Streets that I'm using in the Kingston area:
osm.wiki/File:NYS_Streets_-_Kingston_NY_ACC_classification.png

Given that Delaware and Hasbrouck have an ACC of 4 I was hesitant to upgrade them for the duration of a project as I'm not that familiar with this area. I'm personally OK with a small trunk-gap with a construction detour on more minor roads, but if the alternate connection makes more sense to you I'm OK with that as well. :-)

112671022

Oops, I meant from I-86 to NY-31.

109281218

I've fixed a missing section of NY-37 west of Massena and some overlapping roads caused by this change-set in changeset/112510817

112423809

This change is a rounding up of the Shelburne Falls-Hinesburg road from a FC of Town-maintained "Major collector" to secondary, but it allow the lower part of Spear, Irish Hill and Dorset which have an FC of Town-maintained "Minor arterial" to avoid being stubs. As well, connecting the larger town centers of Hinesburg and Shelburne via secondary makes sense from a connectivity standpoint.

112423470

Note that Irish Hill/Falls/Marsett Roads have a functional classification of "Major Collector", but I'm rounding up to prevent Spear from being a spur in the secondary network.

112396536

Thanks, Ewen! :-)

Years of software development has ingrained in me this mantra for version-control comments: What changed? Why did you change it?

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See comments on changeset/111570311

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See comments on changeset/111570311